First injection help...newbie here :(

**Haga123** · 10-01-2009, 12:37 AM

Well I ****ed up, not scared to do it or anything but I hate the god damn syringes that I have. They are BD from sterile syringes, 3cc's, but those mother ****ers are hard to push and pull in small motions.

Are they supposed to be this way? I've never handled needles or anything before this, and at first I tried to inject into my glute (250mg test e) with a 25g 1.5in needle, didn't feel shit, I was in 3/4th of the way, and I wanted to aspirate . Well I tried to ever so slightly pull back, and it did NOT want to come back. I tried to pull back harder and harder but I didn't want to pull out a lot of air or blood on accident (like if it slipped which it was when I pushed out the initial air bubbles pre injection) and while doing this I suppose I was going in deeper and deeper with the needle and then a little bit of blood went into the syringe (definitely from going back and fourth with the needle) and I said **** it and pulled out.

I got super light headed but I was pissed at myself and went back to do a thigh injection, I pushed out the blood that was in the syringe (a little bit would not come out, didn't want to loose a lot of my gear) and switched to a new 25g 1.5in. I am pretty lean and I didn't want to do the needle all the way in, in fear of hitting something, and so while going (injected middle of leg, outer quadrant at an angle, like on spot injections thigh shot #2) about 60% of the way in (which I was going to stay at and inject) I must have hit something because my leg twitched right from that site and up my leg. It didn't hurt but I felt very uneasy about that and pulled out again.

Should the syringe be smooth when pulling/pushing or it is supposed to be so damn hard?

I kept the gear in the syringe. Should it be okay to use again (after switching to a new needle)?

Thanks...

**CHUCKYthentic** · 10-01-2009, 12:46 AM

I hate BD syringes! ive found they are not very smooth either, its all about terumo brand IMO

check another one and mess with it (without nay juice in there) see if its the same

**Haga123** · 10-01-2009, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

I hate BD syringes! ive found they are not very smooth either, its all about terumo brand IMO

check another one and mess with it (without nay juice in there) see if its the same

Thanks for the quick reply...definitely going to get terumo next time because this is bull...do you think I can inject into my same glute again, since I'm right handed I think it's going to be hard to inject into my left glute.

**premedreject** · 10-01-2009, 01:24 AM

how "lean" are you?

**Haga123** · 10-01-2009, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by premedreject

how "lean" are you?

~12%, not super lean, but have a 4 pack outline, veins in quads and calves, lower abdominals...etc

**premedreject** · 10-01-2009, 01:27 AM

What are your stats? weight? height?

**Haga123** · 10-01-2009, 01:35 AM

5'11''
171lbs
Lifting for 4 years, started out 240lbs at 30% BF.

I have low test levels (230ng/dL, ref range 300-800ng/dL) and I wanted to get put on inj from the doc, but he would only give me gels and I knew those suck, so I am basically self-meditating.

Also, do you think the gear is still okay to use, or should I just dump this amp since I probably have to switch syringes?

**Haga123** · 10-01-2009, 02:19 AM

Ok guys, I found out my problem. A 25g needle is too small for what I have. Only droplets can come out and I tried so hard (into the toilet, not my body!) to get a stream going that the needle flew out!

**stpete** · 10-01-2009, 03:33 AM

Yea, 25's are a bitch. I stick with 23's all the time. Yes, it's fine to stick your glute again. And yes, the juice is fine sitting in the syringe.

**syd-bloke** · 10-01-2009, 08:29 AM

Warm up your sus under the tap water before pulling and using. (not too hot, just mild temp).

**Mooseman33** · 10-01-2009, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by stpete

Yea, 25's are a bitch. I stick with 23's all the time. Yes, it's fine to stick your glute again. And yes, the juice is fine sitting in the syringe.

agree....

**sportfan33** · 10-01-2009, 11:45 AM

that sux, get terumo, there great

**depfife** · 10-26-2009, 12:29 AM

I use 25 to shoot oil based test prop. into my glute... It is slow to inject... about 1 min. per cc.. but I love small needles...After i put the needle into the glute muscle, i give it a tug for a few seconds, until i get a "vacuum bubble"...no problems...

**Berserker88** · 10-26-2009, 01:09 AM

Ive used BD 3cc syringes too. Done 2 injections so far - both glutes, 22g 1.5" and didnt have any problems APART from my hands being too big for the syringe... thats the only problem ive had to far, 2nd injection i got my GF to aspirate and inject as its to hard for me to reach back there.

**thenextcutler** · 10-26-2009, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by depfife

I use 25 to shoot oil based test prop. into my glute... It is slow to inject... about 1 min. per cc.. but I love small needles...After i put the needle into the glute muscle, i give it a tug for a few seconds, until i get a "vacuum bubble"...no problems...

would a 25 work for test E depot? as far as i know it's similar to test prop but I'm yet to do my first cycle... still learning.

**Berserker88** · 10-26-2009, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by thenextcutler

would a 25 work for test E depot? as far as i know it's similar to test prop but I'm yet to do my first cycle... still learning.

I do a 22g in my glute and hardly feel it as is! why do you need a 25?

**thenextcutler** · 10-26-2009, 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by Berserker88

I do a 22g in my glute and hardly feel it as is! why do you need a 25?

i've read that pain is significantly reduced with a smaller needle? and that too big a needle could potentially pick up a piece of rubber from your vial.

i'm planning on doing my first cycle soon, just hammering out the fine details (I'm obsessed with process)

**Berserker88** · 10-26-2009, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by thenextcutler

i've read that pain is significantly reduced with a smaller needle? and that too big a needle could potentially pick up a piece of rubber from your vial.

i'm planning on doing my first cycle soon, just hammering out the fine details (I'm obsessed with process)

22g is relatively small for a glute inj... Trust me - it doesnt hurt! I thought the same thing before I did my first inj just a few days ago.

You need to do more reading man - you NEVER inject with the same needle you pull from the vial with! You switch pins after you draw!

**DR T** · 10-26-2009, 04:50 AM

The last few times, I've used a 21 to draw, then switch to a 25g 1", no issues: quad inj, delt inj, it is slow, but not one minute per cc, maybe 20 sec per cc...
You must have some super thick gear!... Mixed with corn syrup

**elitepeptides** · 10-26-2009, 04:51 AM

I do a glute 22g needles as well. Maybe you should try out the differences in gauge size like stated above. There's actually a non

**elitepeptides** · 10-26-2009, 04:59 AM

I do a glute 22g needles as well. Maybe you should try out the differences in gauge size like stated above. One thing I noticed is that it hasn't been as rough when you don't apply alcohol to the syringe.

**chuckt12345** · 10-26-2009, 03:06 PM

I got some cyp prescribed by my doc,, he said to come in for first shot to show me and then i could do the rest,, i agreed to humor them, nurse shot my cyp 200mg/ml with a 27 g 5/8ths inch slin pin,, i just bite my tounge and kept from laughing,, she must of took 5 mins to get it all in.