16 week steriod cycle. help

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 06:56 PM

hi im 22,
i have dun a cycle wen i ws 21 of dianabol 35mg a day for 6 weeks
my benchpress is 65 which is very low

i am now tinkin of doing a 16 week cycle
which consist of

1-16 anabols 30mg
1-10 deca 100mg
1-10 cypionate , 250mg
10-16- 500 mg sus
18-24, nolvadex

any advice
also how much would my benchpres rise ??thanks

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 07:00 PM

any1???????

**G4R** · 10-02-2009, 07:02 PM

Stats?

Height
Weight
BF%
PCT Knowledge
Diet

**rockinred** · 10-02-2009, 07:07 PM

What do you mean 65? Why did you run a d-bol only cycle? There is no way I recommend all those compounds for a second cycle. 16wks of orals? are you trying to kill yourself?

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 07:09 PM

height: 6 ft
weight: 66 kg
bf: i dont know... i am quite skinny..
pct: run nolvadex at 20mg daily....
diet: breakfast 3 eggs, beans, brown bread, and pro gain extreme shake
11am, protein bar,
12. lunch time: 3 breast chicken peices and pro max extreme shake
4pm, tuna, 7 chicken peices and egg and sweetcorn and beans and progain shake
7pm, few fruits and promax

thanks

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 07:10 PM

i have already ordered a 10ml of cypionate
and 10ml of deca ....
and nolvadex
and arimidex
lookin to start on monday
how does that many orals kill you....
and what do you recommend
thanks

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 07:11 PM

i mean 65 kg benchpress, dont laugh lol

**G4R** · 10-02-2009, 07:14 PM

Bro you are SKINNY!

You need to work on your diet first before you start another cycle. Too many shakes in there when you could be eating real food. Have you been to our diet section yet? If not, then head over there and post up your diet in detail with you macros (cal, carbs, fat, and protein) along with your BF%, TDEE and your BMR.

You will then get a custom diet to fit your goals. Dont start anymore cycles until you get that in check first.

**rockinred** · 10-02-2009, 07:15 PM

You don't need to take anabolics weighing at 145 lbs and 6 ft. You need to lift in the gym and eat more food. You will grow a lot just off of that. Taking orals for that long can really hurt your liver. I am being serious about this advice... Not sure where you are from, but have you ever heard the term drug abuse? that is strictly all you are doing right here. You don't take a whole bottle of aspirin for a headache do you?

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 07:18 PM

lol tht comment made me laugh about the aspirin good one lol
i been trainin for 3 years my diet, has been arite but i dnt seem to gain, i dnt get it, cuz i manage to do 135 kg on the chest fly machine, and 105kg on the tricep dip but why do i only bench 65!! and no offence but i really want to do this cycle, so can you please give me sum advice thank you for your times guy!!!

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 07:19 PM

i will sort my diet out, thanks for the advice, can you help me out on this cycle, please cuz i dont want to kill myself LOL

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 07:29 PM

anyone???

**Shadman05** · 10-02-2009, 07:35 PM

You need way more then what u "ordered" to complete your cycle... You should not cycle until u have gained another 35-50 pounds natty.

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 07:36 PM

what more do i need mate?
thanks for your help

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 07:44 PM

seems like no one wants to help me on this forum

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 07:51 PM

i weight 13 stones??? jus checked now on the scale,
and checked online

so i weigh 82.55381134000001 kg

not what i mentioned before, as tht ws like a year ago lol wen i last weighed myself, just checked on the scale now and converted it online to kg

i knw 82kg is still nothing, but i really really want to start this cycle and would appreciate all your guys help

thank you so much

***D7M*** · 10-02-2009, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by trainhard981

seems like no one wants to help me on this forum

we are helping you, in this thread and your other one.

It's just not what you want to hear...doesn't mean it's not helping you though

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 08:08 PM

i know and i appreciate it, but i am going to take this gear, on monday no matter what, and am currently tryin to get my diet sorted, so i make good gains, so i just want to know what would be the best for me, and what else i should take. thanks

**CMonkey** · 10-02-2009, 08:24 PM

well, I guess you have made up your mind, so there is no sense in anybody else wasting their time trying to talk sense into you.

good luck with your cycle

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 08:25 PM

thanks c monkey

**Skippa** · 10-02-2009, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by trainhard981

i know and i appreciate it, but i am going to take this gear, on monday no matter what, and am currently tryin to get my diet sorted, so i make good gains, so i just want to know what would be the best for me, and what else i should take. thanks

haha what arrogance!

"Educate before you medicate" words from a good man.

No one here will help you destroy your body

Like C monk said good luck with it all

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 08:43 PM

......., how am i destroying my body
all i asked for help on how i should do my cycle
wish i never asked now.

**PC650** · 10-02-2009, 08:48 PM

not trying too be rude but that is one of the ugliest cycles ive seen and the diet is worst man. really gotta get your diet spot first before anabolics. seriously bro! orals for 16wks......

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 08:51 PM

yeah thats why im asking for advice, but no1 is correcting the cycle i have!!!

**CMonkey** · 10-02-2009, 08:58 PM

nobody is going to correct your cycle, because you need to gain weight naturally, I think it is a general consensus that you should not be cycling.

Here's a hint, 16 weeks of anabol, hope you are on a liver transplant list.

**Skippa** · 10-02-2009, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by trainhard981

......., how am i destroying my body
all i asked for help on how i should do my cycle
wish i never asked now.

"but i am going to take this gear, on monday no matter what"
Like i said arrogance

You are putting chemicals into your body that could be potentially dangerous!

This is your first REAL cycle (im sure you lost what you put on with Dbol anyway) SO..go with test only!!

Read this AAS: Things to consider before starting a first cycle (Great Read)

Then this Test beginner cycle info

Then go to the diet section post your diet for review.
Gain some natural weight and continue to train and THEN consider AAS

AAS's are not just some magic potion.

Understand what you are taking and how your body can benefit from it or you will do damage!

But like i said good luck with it all if you are starting on monday

**PC650** · 10-02-2009, 08:58 PM

anabols??? you mean dianabols

**xXthehulkXx** · 10-02-2009, 09:00 PM

many people have offered their advise to you, if you don't want to listen then that's your problem. just because no body is telling you the stuff you want to hear, doesn't mean that they are not giving advise. if you are dead set on running this go ahead. when you are done and your liver and who knows what other problems will result don't come crying back to us. just my .02.

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 09:00 PM

LOL, i cancel out the anabols fpr 16 and stick to 6 weeks then, dw about it, thanks for ur help.

**PC650** · 10-02-2009, 09:00 PM

i would use test c 500mg for 12 weeks brotha. if your diet is correct youll get some good gains

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 09:01 PM

thanks for ur help guys

**CMonkey** · 10-02-2009, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by PC650

anabols??? you mean dianabols

That is what I was assuming, I used his lingo in my post. If it is adrol.....pure stupidity.

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 09:04 PM

lol i ment dianabol , thanks for the link guys, and my gear arrives on monday, so im jus wondering hw much mg is in 1 ml for cypionate , seeing as i ordered a 10ml bottle.

**2jz_calgary** · 10-02-2009, 09:13 PM

you are going to inject yoruself with steroids and dont even know the mg per ml denomination? thats just plain stupid man...your gona b another statistic pure and simple. When you get your gear put it away and start reading alll the stickies here on these forums. If you start cyclin before your just wastin your time and compromising your health, theres some help

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 09:16 PM

200mg/ml

**trainhard981** · 10-02-2009, 09:16 PM

i might just do that lol thanks bro (Y)

**2jz_calgary** · 10-02-2009, 09:27 PM

once you start to read all the diet , educational threads, pct, members cycle results...youll reallize how little you know and how much knowledge you need to approach a cycle propersly for health and maximum gains