PROPer kickstart

**JPO** · 10-05-2009, 11:52 AM

I am looking into my 2nd cycle and was going to go with test and deca until i posted it up and got good advice from marcus (cheers bud) to drop the deca for now and add some dbol to kick start the cycle.
I am not to keen on orals due to the liver toxicity and was wondering if you think running prop as a kick start and at the end would be ok ? somthing like this.

wks 1-4 test prop 100mg eod
wks 1-12 test e 500mg pw
wks 12-14 test prop 100mg eod
start pct 3 days after last prop shot

A good idea for somone not keen on orals ?
let me know your thoughts.
Cheers.

**hankdiesel** · 10-05-2009, 11:54 AM

The beginning looks good but I don't think you need to throw it back in week 12. You could run it 13-14 if you want.

**Researcher** · 10-05-2009, 12:13 PM

I was wondering about this also. In theory Test Prop seems like it would be a good kick start for a Test E cycle. Is there something I'm missing?

**stpete** · 10-05-2009, 12:14 PM

^^^^^ I agree. But i prefer the d-bol for a kickstart.

**sigman roid** · 10-05-2009, 12:16 PM

I would just do like you was going to but not bother with the prop from 12-14 and just start your pct 14 days after last shot of test e

**JPO** · 10-05-2009, 01:01 PM

thanks for the replys guys.

ok looks like general concensus is drop the prop at the end and just go with it at the start.

Cheers.

**marcus300** · 10-05-2009, 01:18 PM

I would agree drop the prop at the end, not much need for it seeing that test e will be self tapering, I also wouldn't be to put off considering the dbols as kickstart, if used for 4 weeks and take some milk thistles and plenty of water you will be fine and shouldn't experience any kind of stress on the liver, choice is yours just record the results so you can look back on them and this will give you an idea for the future at designing cycles.

**JPO** · 10-06-2009, 05:25 AM

Thanks again marcus..
I think i will go with the prop this time round then go with the dbol next time round see what happens. Then once i add the deca i will have a good grasp on which kickstart to use with that cycle in the future. that way it also gives me another cycle inbetween adding the deca so that im a little more experienced.

Cheers.