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    H_U_G_O is offline Associate Member
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    Smile simple help please..

    hey guys
    i started my testoviron cycle on Monday and today i took the 2nd injection today.

    I had problems dealing with hcg while on cycle, so i'm keeping it for the pct after my cycle, however i was reading about Armidex and i was wondering that if it could be replaced by HCG while on cycle by taking 1mg/day for the first 4 weeks, i know it increases testosterone levels by 58 %, blocks the estrogen in the body (the 20 %) so the body works fully on testosterone , prevents water retention and gyno symtoms, but at the same time it has lots of side effects but i don't know if those effects appear in a short term usage, however women were suggested not to take it for more than 5 years (for breast cancer)...

    what do you suggest guys ? should i expect any of its side effect if used for 4 weeks ? or it will totaly lower the cycle results?

    after all i want to protect the sperm counts so my testicle function wont shut down
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    10 views and no suggestions ? help me out guys

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    I think your confused about how things work. If your concern about your testicles then your going to have to use HCG during your cycle, if your concerned about estrogen sides/water retention then get some a-dex.

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    your right i guess i got confused, it is just that i'm being too careful towards my cycle, what do you think is the replacement of HCG ? proviron maybe ? 50 mg/tablets 25 morning 25 evening....
    or shall i stick with hcg and armidex ?
    sorry for asking 2 many questions dude

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    Proviron is not a replacement for HCG . Why won't you use HCG during cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by H_U_G_O View Post
    your right i guess i got confused, it is just that i'm being too careful towards my cycle, what do you think is the replacement of HCG ? proviron maybe ? 50 mg/tablets 25 morning 25 evening....
    or shall i stick with hcg and armidex ?
    sorry for asking 2 many questions dude
    Like the above just stated proviron isnt a replacement for hcg,
    How old are you?
    did you do any research at all before you stared this cycle?
    Yes get some hcg and a-dex if your concerned with your testicles and estrogen sides.

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    yes i did lots of research about the cycle, but i guess i didnt do enough research on things other than clomid nolvadex and armidex, and HCG as i stated in other thread about HCG, it needs a 10ml sterile vials and i cant find an empty one, however someone told me how to mix it but i didnt understand, he said sterile water with 1 cc of hcg which it makes 200 i.u's in each cc i really didn't understand..
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    First of all how many iu of HCG in powder do you currently have? Then what you need is bacteriostatic water. You mix the water with the powder in a sterile vial. The powder should come in a sterile vial. For example 5000iu of hcg mixed with 10ml of bacteriostatic water gives you 500iu per cc or ml.

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    how did you check your bf?

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    H_U_G_O is offline Associate Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    how did you check your bf?
    my nutrition doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke View Post
    First of all how many iu of HCG in powder do you currently have? Then what you need is bacteriostatic water. You mix the water with the powder in a sterile vial. The powder should come in a sterile vial. For example 5000iu of hcg mixed with 10ml of bacteriostatic water gives you 500iu per cc or ml.
    i have the 3x1500 i.u
    1500 i.u's in each amp i got 3 amps

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    Quote Originally Posted by H_U_G_O View Post
    i have the 3x1500 i.u
    1500 i.u's in each amp i got 3 amps
    Is it in powder?

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