Bulking cycle critique need feedback

[Big Oz]

OK GUYS HERE WE GO AGAIN. I FELL DOWN SOME STAIRS AND MESSED MY SHOULDER UP AFTER MY LAST CYCLE. I LOST EVERYTHING. IM DOWN TO ABOUT 180 LBS FROM 215LBS. I NEED TO GET BACK UP THERE. IVE BEEN CLEAN FOR ABOUT 4.5 MONTHS AND AM READY FOR MY BULKING CYCLE. MY SHOULDER IS 100PERCENT SO IM READY TO GO.

RIGHT NOW IM

5'9
180 LBS
ABOUT 10 - 125% BF
DONE ABOUT 6 CYCLES

week 1 - 16 test enethate 600 mg
week 1 - 16 deca 600 mg
week 1-4 dbol 30 mg
week 1-6 test propionate 100mg eod
week 10 -16 trenbolone 300mg
week 10 -16 winstrol 50mg eod
week 1-16 nolvadex 10-20mg a day
week 14-16 hcg 5000 iu week
pct 14 days after last shot of test

clomid 100/50/50/50

IM GYNO PRONE SO THATS WHY IM ADDING THE NOLVA THROUGHOUT THE CYCLE.

[CHUCKYthentic]

have you ever ran tren before? if so have you ran it with deca at the same time? if not dont start now, bad idea. both 19nors and will really raise your progesterone levels bad! drop the tren and save it for a cutter

if you re gyno prone you would be better with an AI on-cycle, like arimidex, as opposed to nolva, save the nolva for your pct

might want to consider hcg use throughout cycle at low dose life 125-250iu 2x/week, just a thought

[CHUCKYthentic]

oh and you need to stop deca week 15 so it can clear your system, stays in there longer than test e

[Big Oz]

thanks for the advice!

[Big Oz]

i have ran tren before but just by itself

[CHUCKYthentic]

ya may as well hold off on the tren for a test/tren cutter or somethin

[Big Oz]

how about substituting equipoise for the deca

[CHUCKYthentic]

depending on your desired results, deca is by far a better bulker

ive ran EQ twice and have found out high doeses are needed, and needs to be run for 12-15weeks to yield the best gains. strength was good on it, goes were slow but solid. never got "exactly" what i expected from it

depending on your goals, IMO deca is a better bulker

[*RAGE*]

I also would stop the deca at week 15
up the dbol to 50mg ed
hold off on the winn till week 12 and run it through you start your PCT
eq, if you are going to run it at 1000mg ew to keep up with the 600mg of deca ew

agreed also with chuck on the AI during cycle and save you nolva for the pct...

since you are running this cycle for 16 weeks you need to run your pct for five weeks to get every thing into check and should look something like this

1-2 clomid 100mg ed
3-5 colmid 50mg ed
1-2 nolva 40mg ed
3-5 nolva 20mg ed
1-5 arimidex .5 eod

[CHUCKYthentic]

I also would stop the deca at week 15
up the dbol to 50mg ed
hold off on the winn till week 12 and run it through you start your PCT
eq, if you are going to run it at 1000mg ew to keep up with the 600mg of deca ew

agreed also with chuck on the AI during cycle and save you nolva for the pct...

since you are running this cycle for 16 weeks you need to run your pct for five weeks to get every thing into check and should look something like this

1-2 clomid 100mg ed
3-5 colmid 50mg ed
1-2 nolva 40mg ed
3-5 nolva 20mg ed
1-5 arimidex .5 eod

filled in the blanks i missed, thank you good sir!

[*RAGE*]

filled in the blanks i missed, thank you good sir!

No you had it bro, I parroted you post for the most part but it helped me stay on track....great minds think a like bro....good to see you back on here bro

[CHUCKYthentic]

yes sir great minds do! its great to be back on here

[Big Oz]

ok so basically im doing the following

week 1 - 16 test enethate 600 mg
week 1 - 16 deca 600 mg or eq 800- 1000 mg???
week 1-4 dbol 30 mg
week 1-6 test propionate 100mg eod
week 10 -16 trenbolone 300mg
week 12 -18 winstrol 50mg eod
week 1-16 arimidex 10-20mg a day
week 14-16 hcg 5000 iu week
pct 14 days after last shot of test

clomid 100/50/50/50
nolvad 40/20/20/20

[Big Oz]

my bad 50mg dbol

[Big Oz]

damn i should gain back the 40lbs i lost easily. especially with my muscle memory. i shoudl get up to about 230 with that cycle if i dont mess around

[*RAGE*]

ok so basically im doing the following

week 1 - 16 test enethate 600 mg
week 1 - 16 deca 600 mg or eq 800- 1000 mg???
week 1-4 dbol 30 mg
week 1-6 test propionate 100mg eod
week 10 -16 trenbolone 300mg
week 12 -18 winstrol 50mg eod
week 1-16 arimidex 10-20mg a day
week 14-16 hcg 5000 iu week
pct 14 days after last shot of test

clomid 100/50/50/50
nolvad 40/20/20/20

i would run the pct for five weeks clomid 100mg ed for two weeks and nolva 40mg for two weeks as well, not sure about the tren running two 19nor's at the same time is a little dangerous IMO but you know what your body can take better then me but if you do run it i would also stop it a week before the test and two weeks if its tren e

[Big Oz]

no its gonaa be tren acetate. so what do you suggest instead of the tren? i love how my body reacts to tren... is there anything out there i should substitute it with? maybe masteron. i want the hard look towards the end of the cycle, but tren puts on some nice size also

[*RAGE*]

I love mast bro, just came off a cycle of it and you talk about hard, and its a dht it will help control the estrogen. IMO if you decide on the mast you could run it through out the cycle.. I would run it at 500mg or a little higher.

[Big Oz]

but how about strenght and size? all it does is get you hard and vascular right? i know it helps with gyno

[Big Oz]

so you think i should run masteron 1-18 or 1-16? and if i run masteron should i still take arimidex? that stuff is expensive and hard to find around here

[*RAGE*]

but how about strenght and size? all it does is get you hard and vascular right? i know it helps with gyno

strength is outstanding and yes vascular

as you should know your size is going to depend on your diet more then the gear. chicken and rice repeat, steak and rice, repeat

[Big Oz]

thanks for the info bro. you really helped me out.. im going to substitute the masteron for the tren....

[Shadman05]

You are going to need an Ai for the deca

[Shadman05]

My bad I didn't see u already had on hand