Severe Acne 8 months post cycle HELP!!!

[HHStorm]

Hi guys. I should have posted this along time ago. Its a long story but ill tell you straight. Im 19 years old almost 20 now and i decided to use anabolic steroids in november last year after lifting for two years solid. Now i always new it was a risk because of my age and know that nearly everyone on here is against using steroids untill your at least 21 and thats at least but i decided to go ahead with it anyway after doing over a year of research on them. My cycle was to be a 12 week test only cycle using 500mg of test enanthate a week divided into two shots evey 3.5 days and clomid for PCT.I started the cyle mid november 2008. At first i was getting some good gains when it kicked in around week 4 and didnt really notice any side affects so i stupidly upped the dose to 750mg as i had more than enough and was that happy with the gains i wanted more. Acne was always the main side affect i was worried about even though i had never had acne and neither had my parents it was one i really didnt want to get so i had some benzol peroxide on hand incase. Now this is where things went wrong at the start of week 9 as i was feeling fine getting some good gains and not really getting any acne apart from one or two or other side affects on the 750mg dosage i decided to add 30mg a day of dianabol to my cyle for the final 4 weeks as i wanted more gains. This is where the acne began i started to break out on my face and it was noticeable so i was putting benzoyl peroxide on morning and night and it was helping abit. This is where it gets extemely stupid at the beginning of week 10 i also added Test prop into the cycle as i had some i was to do 100mg EOD so 400mg a week so this would take me to a total 1150mg test a week plus the 30mg dianabol a day. Now i new this was extremely high and stupid but the gains were that good i wanted more and more not thinking about how bad the acne that had started could get. I finished the cyle after 12weeks gaining around 2 stone did my PCT which was clomid for 3 weeks 150mg a day week 1 100mg week 2 then 50mg week 3. By this time my face was a mess no where else just my face i didnt want to leave the house! i visited the doctor and he put me on tetracycline and topical isotretinoin for 6 weeks. i returned after 3 weeks as it was getting worse he agreed and he put me on a very high dose of tetracycline 2000mg a day. it basically did nothing. i was referred to a dermatoligist and started accutane may 24th this year. i have been on ACCUTANE for 20 weeks and still have acne i also have scarring.Im on 85mg a day and in 4 weeks i will have been on this for 6 months. What the hell do you guys think is going on coz this is seriously depressing. I dont understand how 8 months on my hormones havent levelled out? im starting to think ive permantly messed my endocrine system up due to doing a dosage like that at my age? Has anyone experienced this or known someone to? All answers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[Researcher]

Yeah you probably really screwed yourself up. Maybe for life. Get to an endo and confess.

[Banana_]

do you guys think it wouldn't have happened if TS used a low dose of say 20mg of Accutane while being on?

Goodluck HHStorm hope it clears up asap.

[HHStorm]

Cheers. Ive got to go back to my dermatoligist in 4 weeks for my 6 month review on the accutane. its only recently i confessed to her that this was caused due to using steroids so on this recent blood test that you have to have whilst using accutane she has also included hormone levels this will be the first time i have had them checked prior to using aas. I think i need an appointment with an endocrinologist as there must be something seriously wrong for the acne to last this long and still be this bad after using accutane for 20 weeks. majority of people are clear after 12 weeks and these are people who have acne naturally.

[TITANIUM]

There is so much wrong here.

Your age, your cycle was awful, your pct was very week, bro, what were you thinking???

Now, your hormone fluctuation is all over the place.

Get a complete blood work done.

You need to go to an endocrinologist asap.


Keep us posted.

Best
T

[Banana_]

There is so much wrong here.

Your age, your cycle was awful, your pct was very week, bro, what were you thinking???

Now, your hormone fluctuation is all over the place.

Get a complete blood work done.

You need to go to an endocrinologist asap.


Keep us posted.

Best
T

If he stayed on the 500mg test, this wouldn't have happened?

[HHStorm]

Your 100% right the whole thing was totally awful and i regret it to this day it was just once i was seeing these amazing gains i wanted more and more. It turned out all the research i did was a complete waste of time. Now tho I would never consider using aas again no matter what age i am after this as it has been the worst year of my life. i am going to get an appointment with an endocrinoologist ASAP and i am awaiting the results on this blood test.

[TITANIUM]

If he stayed on the 500mg test, this wouldn't have happened?

I never said anything about 500 mgs of test.

It's his age and a bad cycle that is the cause of this.

It would have most likely happened on aas in general.

You guys need to do research before injecting yourselves.

You do not want to end up on trt at that age, even worse can happen.

Not worth it.......

[Researcher]

If he stayed on the 500mg test, this wouldn't have happened?

This or plenty of awful other things could still happen. There is a reason people here work so hard to keep kids away from aas.

[TITANIUM]

Your 100% right the whole thing was totally awful and i regret it to this day it was just once i was seeing these amazing gains i wanted more and more. It turned out all the research i did was a complete waste of time. Now tho I would never consider using aas again no matter what age i am after this as it has been the worst year of my life. i am going to get an appointment with an endocrinoologist ASAP and i am awaiting the results on this blood test.

I hope you the best.

Sorry things turned out the way they did.

But we see it alot here on the forum.

Hopefully the endo doc can help you.

T

[TITANIUM]

This or plenty of awful other things could still happen. There is a reason people here work so hard to keep kids away from aas.

Yes.

T

[HHStorm]

do any of you know what the underlying cause of this could possibly be? And why treatments such as accutane dont seem to be having much affect?

[TITANIUM]

do any of you know what the underlying cause of this could possibly be? And why treatments such as accutane dont seem to be having much affect?

Hormone fluctuation.

There are some really experienced Vets that can explain this to you in detail.

Or, your doc can explain it.

T

[HHStorm]

Cheers T

[TITANIUM]

Cheers T

Good luck bro.

T

[HHStorm]

Does anyone know anything that i could take to try and help this? or would you say accutane is the best thing i could be taking? i also tried megadosing B5 and washing with nizoral shampoo prior to accutane ive practically tried everything.

[Banana_]

I never said anything about 500 mgs of test.

It's his age and a bad cycle that is the cause of this.

It would have most likely happened on aas in general.

You guys need to do research before injecting yourselves.

You do not want to end up on trt at that age, even worse can happen.

Not worth it.......

thanks for the quick reply.I meant it as a question.



But is it really possible to get such problems on a regular test only cycle with a good pct? I have heard of people getting really bad acne on a first cycle but not having acné that isn't going away at all and problems with hormonal levels from 1 cycle

even using aas in a young age.

I just think this wouldn't have happened if TS sticked to his plan (500mg test EW) and did a good PCT. Am I right?

[Researcher]

Does anyone know anything that i could take to try and help this? or would you say accutane is the best thing i could be taking? i also tried megadosing B5 and washing with nizoral shampoo prior to accutane ive practically tried everything.

You've already tried self medicating, that's what got you into this situation. Get to the endo and do exactly what he says.

[HHStorm]

This is what i cant understand? i always regarded acne as a temporary side affect of using aas. i remember thinking 3 months down the line what the hell is going on why have i still got this??? Now 8 months on this is just ridiculous theres obviously something serious going on with my body.

[Researcher]

thanks for the quick reply.I meant it as a question.



But is it really possible to get such problems on a regular test only cycle with a good pct? I have heard of people getting really bad acne on a first cycle but not having acné that isn't going away at all and problems with hormonal levels from 1 cycle

even using aas in a young age.

I just think this wouldn't have happened if TS sticked to his plan (500mg test EW) and did a good PCT. Am I right?

No you are not.

[Researcher]

This is what i cant understand? i always regarded acne as a temporary side affect of using aas. i remember thinking 3 months down the line what the hell is going on why have i still got this??? Now 8 months on this is just ridiculous theres obviously something serious going on with my body.

It's a temporary side effect in adults, you're a kid.

[TITANIUM]

thanks for the quick reply.I meant it as a question.



But is it really possible to get such problems on a regular test only cycle with a good pct? I have heard of people getting really bad acne on a first cycle but not having acné that isn't going away at all and problems with hormonal levels from 1 cycle

even using aas in a young age.

I just think this wouldn't have happened if TS sticked to his plan (500mg test EW) and did a good PCT. Am I right?

No, your are not right.

It may not have been as bad, but, it is still to risky.

That is why we discourage the use of steroids at a young age.

Would you want the OP to have ran the 500 mgs as a litmus test to see what happens?

No, of course not.

You only get one body in this life.

Try to keep the experiments on one's self out of the equation.

T

[HHStorm]

Cheers for the input from everyone looks like the best thing i can do is get to an endocrinologist asap. And hopefully i can get this sorted.

[Duma23]

Cheers for the input from everyone looks like the best thing i can do is get to an endocrinologist asap. And hopefully i can get this sorted.

u tried a anti spot face wash like clearsil?

[Hazard]

Are you kidding my life? You have been on 85mg/day of accutane for 6 months and you STILL have acne!?!?!?

This has to be the absolute worst case i've ever heard of..... after 30 days on 20mg's I start to dry out..... 6 months at 85mg's has to have your lips massively cracked and blistered.

Definately get that bloodwork done and get to an endocrinologist to find out whats going on.....

~Haz~

[HHStorm]

Yea use a daily face wash helps abit i suppose the one i use contains salycylic acid. Yea i know this is why im so pissed off accutane is the strongest stuff out there and still 20 weeks on it i have acne i was thinking id be done in 12. My dermatoligist has said though that some people must stay on this for 9 to 12 months. Id say it has improved by 40% to what it was but is still there and very persistent. its also so weird because i never had any acne prior to using aas so its not as if i was predisposed to it. And yea my lips have been dry and cracked the whole time ive been on accutane.

[syd-bloke]

Are you kidding my life? You have been on 85mg/day of accutane for 6 months and you STILL have acne!?!?!?

This has to be the absolute worst case i've ever heard of..... after 30 days on 20mg's I start to dry out..... 6 months at 85mg's has to have your lips massively cracked and blistered.

Definately get that bloodwork done and get to an endocrinologist to find out whats going on.....

~Haz~

Agreed 100%

Acu is so strong, I had acne everywhere after deca cycle even in my mouth! Acu killed them all in 3 months and I was on 20mg ed.

Are you taking anything else that might interfere with Acu? See another specialist.

[lovbyts]

Hmmm why should people under 25 do steroids?

Sorry but this is the point we keep trying to get across. You have a LOT going on inside still in your early 20s and can screw up a lot of things maybe permanently. Everyone thinks it wont happen to me and some get lucky.

I hope you learned and are not considering doing another cycle anytime soon.

I also hope you get things cleared up.

[BJJ]

There is so much wrong here.

Your age, your cycle was awful, your pct was very week, bro, what were you thinking???

Now, your hormone fluctuation is all over the place.

Get a complete blood work done.

You need to go to an endocrinologist asap.


Keep us posted.

Best
T

Those WORDS should get PETRIFIED on the minds of these very and too young guys whose wrong decisions may have a dramatic role in their future health, so life.

[BJJ]

hmmm why should people under 25 do steroids?

Sorry but this is the point we keep trying to get across. You have a lot going on inside still in your early 20s and can screw up a lot of things maybe permanently. Everyone thinks it wont happen to me and some get lucky.

i hope you learned and are not considering doing another cycle anytime soon.

I also hope you get things cleared up.

agreed!

[HHStorm]

No i havent been taking anything exept the accutane ive taken no supplements at all since the end of january this year which was when i finished the cycle. Ive got an appointment with my doctor tomorrow about getting the referral to see an endocrinologist ASAP il tell him everything. And im also seeing my dermatoligist again this thursday i want to increase the accutane dosage to 100mg a day. And no lovbyts im not considering doing a cycle anytime soon or ever again even when this does clear up because id never take the risk of it coming back.

[syd-bloke]

No i havent been taking anything exept the accutane ive taken no supplements at all since the end of january this year which was when i finished the cycle. Ive got an appointment with my doctor tomorrow about getting the referral to see an endocrinologist ASAP il tell him everything. And im also seeing my dermatoligist again this thursday i want to increase the accutane dosage to 100mg a day. And no lovbyts im not considering doing a cycle anytime soon or ever again even when this does clear up because id never take the risk of it coming back.

Good man. There is special body wash that your dermatoligist can prescribe. Aso stay away from sunlight and make sure you dont eat spicy food. Dont worry, this will clear up.

[boz]

Hey storm sorry to hear what happend, maybe give these guys a try http://www.platinumlabz.com/servlet/Detail?no=2 i have heard very good feedback, also it could maybe help boost that self-esteem of your's back up.

I'm 21 and yeah i'm almost finishing my first cycle i know the fellas won't be impressed reading this, but hey they can only give you the best advice and there experiences. Its your life at the end of the day.

[michael tyson]

Good man. There is special body wash that your dermatoligist can prescribe. Aso stay away from sunlight and make sure you dont eat spicy food. Dont worry, this will clear up.

wait, you had acne inside your mouth?

im preparing to do a dbol, test, deca cycle. I am already on 20mg of accutane though. Hopefully i avoid this mouth acne you speak of.

[syd-bloke]

wait, you had acne inside your mouth?

im preparing to do a dbol, test, deca cycle. I am already on 20mg of accutane though. Hopefully i avoid this mouth acne you speak of.

mine was the worst case possible! dont laugh but i also had acne under my eye lid! my whole body was covered looked like bloody chicken pox! lol but acu killed it in 3 months.

[HHStorm]

Cheers syd-bloke and boz88 for your thoughts and ideas. I really hope this will clear up very soon. I will ask my derm about this special facewash on thursday. And i will also have a look at that link now boz88. it is mad how mush acne on your face smashes your self esteem i never gave it a thought before i used aas.

[turk30]

Do a google search for "levulan blue light". I have done 3 treatments myself and it did wonders. It's not covered under most insurance plans because it is deemed "cosmetic" but it is the only thing that I have ever tried that comes close to the results that accutane gave me.

[HHStorm]

Do a google search for "levulan blue light". I have done 3 treatments myself and it did wonders. It's not covered under most insurance plans because it is deemed "cosmetic" but it is the only thing that I have ever tried that comes close to the results that accutane gave me.

Cheers i will have a look at this now i am willing to try anything. Got referred to the endocrinologist today by my doctor appointment shouldnt be to long hopefully.

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[dandaman14]

BUMP does anyone know if this guy cured his acne or found out the root cause of the hormones causing this?
I am in the same situation i did test e 250mg weeks 1-18 and deca 700mg per week for 1-16 weeks ran hcg throughout and pct properly. I got severe back and chest acne near the end of cycle and got worse and worse after coming off, i went to a derm and got on accutane 80 mg a day, i have been on it was 6 months and still getting acne - the accutane has cleared my acne 70%.

This is mind boggling, why the hell am i still getting acne so long after stopping the cycle, its been 7 months since my last injection of test and deca. I got bloods done a few months back for testosterone and estrogen they are both in healthy ranges and fully recovered, this makes no fing sense. My theories - the steroids enlarged the sebum glands and they have not shrunk after discontining the steroids, therefor accutane is needed. Or hormones are not right, but how can this be after getting my tests back in healthy ranges? Ive done a test only cycle prior to this and only got minor acne, so im thinking deca is the main culprit? Maybe prolactin is causing the acne? Since deca can be detected in your body up to 18 months maybe the side effects can still be in effect? raised prolactin/acne I have not got prolactin tested maybe its worth a look, thoughts?