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    Gyno / first cycle

    Last night i made a post about injection dosage, which was cleared up. Coming closer the time of my first cycle , i still feel a little unclear about gyno. I've read the newbies starter pack, the pct and gyno prevention (for those who think im about to waste your time.)

    First cycle
    Weeks 1-10
    500mg test e

    2 weeks after my last shot ill run nolva @ 40/40/20/20 ED

    I'm told as of right now, nolva is apparently hard to get? The guy selling me the gear didn't even know what pct was - he says "wen you do tes you don even loose dat many gainz" and "i'd buy one at a time if i waz you" THAT WAS A VERY, VERY BIG - let me say that again. THAT WAS A VERY, VERY BIG TURN OFF.

    Here is my issue : I'm VERY, VERY paranoid about getting gyno while on cycle. Obviously , i should be worried? I know the signs (hard spot under the nipple tender to the touch or puffy nipples) someother minors being acne, bloating, ect and i can live with those.

    Now is it a bad idea NOT to have nolva on hand? I'm 100% sure the second i was to get or notice the symptoms of gyno, i'd pop 40mg of gyno everyday to block the est. reiceptors. If some one could explain this to my thoroughly i'd appreciate it , thank you.

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    run letro or arimidex start a week or 2 before cycle if your that paranoid ... and you should be.,.. i just got gyno surgery on thursday.... its not fun, lots of down time, bruising swelling ... nasty stuff... compression vest and the $$$ shits expensive

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    Would you mind explaining running that? Do i still need nolva?
    eg
    week 1-10
    teste 500mg
    (blank)mg letro

    pct nolva 40/40/20/20

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    you can run letro at .5-.75 as a preventive measure... you need to taper off .. do some searching because you can rebound... but prob not at that dosage. Im not a fan of nolva .. too many sides that i dont like. But basic pct is clomid and nolva

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    Could i use Nolvadex XT ( http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp...LAID=293851221) ? or do i need the real thing

    Okay ill be honest. ALL of the people i know who use gear , ALL say i don't need any pct for test e cycle. They all say start low end low , whatever that means. I was also told gyno comes from not working your chest hard enough? i've read much different. I'm sure this has been brought up before , can someone people direct me to the correct thread or throw down some full insight for me?
    Last edited by roy123; 10-14-2009 at 01:50 PM.

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    Nolvadex XT is a supplement not a Serm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roy123 View Post
    Could i use Nolvadex XT ( http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp...LAID=293851221) ? or do i need the real thing

    Okay ill be honest. ALL of the people i know who use gear , ALL say i don't need any pct for test e cycle. They all say start low end low , whatever that means. I was also told gyno comes from not working your chest hard enough? i've read much different. I'm sure this has been brought up before , can someone people direct me to the correct thread or throw down some full insight for me?



    You can run nolva @ 10 mgs a day.

    It won't hinder gains.(in this case).

    Have a AI on hand like adex, or letro, that is always a good plan.

    I would run the clomid @ 100/50/50/50
    Nolva @ 40/20/20/20

    Standard protocol.

    Your source knows nothing about anything, so I question if the gear is viable.

    Best

    T

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    i agree with you guys, run Armidex if ur worried about the test sides just take 1 pill/day.. although armidex is pretty expensive but useful at the same time, as an advice start it on the 4th week, because u need estrogen to have muscles growth let the test e increase ur muscles (as a kick start) than do Armidex as simple as that

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    Quote Originally Posted by H_U_G_O View Post
    i agree with you guys, run Armidex if ur worried about the test sides just take 1 pill/day.. although armidex is pretty expensive but useful at the same time, as an advice start it on the 4th week, because u need estrogen to have muscles growth let the test e increase ur muscles (as a kick start) than do Armidex as simple as that
    I would only run adex if you need to.

    Keep it on hand.

    Your cycle is simple, as it should be.

    Unless you are gyno prone, I would run the nolva @ 10 mgs ed.

    Save the adex if you need it.

    Remember serms and AI's are different.

    Best

    t

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITANIUM View Post
    I would only run adex if you need to.

    Keep it on hand.

    Your cycle is simple, as it should be.

    Unless you are gyno prone, I would run the nolva @ 10 mgs ed.

    Save the adex if you need it.

    Remember serms and AI's are different.

    Best

    t

    adex and letro should be ran as a preventative measure .... they take 2 weeks to kick in

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