First Time! Would like some straight up answers

**KrunchTyme** · 10-14-2009, 12:27 PM

First off no smartass comments or anything. If ur going to comment about my age (19) being too young, just don't waste the time typing because I already know that. I would just really like some straight up answers. I already have 2 competitve bodybuilders helping me out, but I want to see what the net thinks. I have a wide knowledge of bodybuilding, however, I don't know everything there is to know about steroids , I will admit that.

So anyways, I am 19 years old and have been seriously bodybuilding since the age of 13. I was going to enter some competitions when I was 18, but some shit went down in my family so I couldn't. I took about 6 months off of BB and I am just starting up again. I lost a lot of size and stength, but I train like an animal.

Soooooooo my questions! I am going to be using D-BOL, and (Possibly) a Test. Now I heard that to protect your liver you should use Milk Thistle with D-BOL. Is this true? I know the possible side effects of D-BOL, negative and possitive. I'm just wondering what is a good cycle to use, as well as any other information you can give me.

ps. If there will be comments trying to push me away from taking them, I will just ignor, this is a forsure thing, and I will be competing really soon. I take BB very seriously, so any negative comments, you're only putting stress on your fingers typing the msg.

***RAGE*** · 10-14-2009, 12:41 PM

I believe ADMIN should close this thread...

**jccnewbie** · 10-14-2009, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by *rage*

i believe admin should close this thread...

x2 ^^^

**carl08** · 10-14-2009, 12:46 PM

its all upto you pal ..ya cant tell me arnie wernt using at age 19???and yes milk thistle is will help with the dbol i used it and had no problems

**KrunchTyme** · 10-14-2009, 12:48 PM

Yeah I know admin will close this haha. Just seeing if I can get any posts until they do.

**KrunchTyme** · 10-14-2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by *RAGE*

I believe ADMIN should close this thread...

Yeah I know admin will close this haha. Just seeing how many posts I can get until they do.

**carl08** · 10-14-2009, 12:50 PM

childish mate

**KrunchTyme** · 10-14-2009, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by carl08

its all upto you pal ..ya cant tell me arnie wernt using at age 19???and yes milk thistle is will help with the dbol i used it and had no problems

Thanks bro

**KrunchTyme** · 10-14-2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by carl08

childish mate

Hey man. Do watcha got to do.

**Big** · 10-14-2009, 01:00 PM

Current height, weight, and body fat%?

**bifda** · 10-14-2009, 01:01 PM

good luck lololololololololololololololol

**KrunchTyme** · 10-14-2009, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Big

Current height, weight, and body fat%?

5''7, 160lbs, 6% bf. I was able to get up to 175 with 8% naturally. I was kind of thinking wait till that, then start.

***El Diablo*** · 10-14-2009, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by KrunchTyme

5''7, 160lbs, 6% bf. I was able to get up to 175 with 8% naturally. I was kind of thinking wait till that, then start.

^^^.. u have no diet, ur wasting ur time.

**KrunchTyme** · 10-14-2009, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

^^^.. u have no diet, ur wasting ur time.

I beg to differ. That was during a tough point. And plus for a 19 year old my diet was a frig load better then, I don't know 99% of my acquaintances.

***El Diablo*** · 10-14-2009, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by KrunchTyme

I beg to differ. That was during a tough point. And plus for a 19 year old my diet was a frig load better then, I don't know 99% of my acquaintances.

..At the end of the day, ur wayyyy to young to try AAS, secondly u have no idea how to use AAS,3rd the so called bodybuilders helping u out also doesnt hav a clue IF that is what they reccomend, ur going to shut down all ur natural test, and ull be on HRT for the rest of ur life.

Why dont u take time and read and enlighten urself some more. Also state ur diet please.

**KrunchTyme** · 10-14-2009, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

..At the end of the day, ur wayyyy to young to try AAS, secondly u have no idea how to use AAS,3rd the so called bodybuilders helping u out also doesnt hav a clue IF that is what they reccomend, ur going to shut down all ur natural test, and ull be on HRT for the rest of ur life.

Why dont u take time and read and enlighten urself some more. Also state ur diet please.

Fair enough. Well I'm not here to start shit. As you can read at the top I stated, "however, I don't know everything there is to know about steroids , I will admit that" as well as, "as well as any other information you can give me." You did just that, so, 1: Thank you kindly, and 2: I shall take your advice and continue with my research.

**KrunchTyme** · 10-14-2009, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by KrunchTyme

First off no smartass comments or anything. If ur going to comment about my age (19) being too young, just don't waste the time typing because I already know that. I would just really like some straight up answers. I already have 2 competitve bodybuilders helping me out, but I want to see what the net thinks. I have a wide knowledge of bodybuilding, however, I don't know everything there is to know about steroids , I will admit that.

So anyways, I am 19 years old and have been seriously bodybuilding since the age of 13. I was going to enter some competitions when I was 18, but some shit went down in my family so I couldn't. I took about 6 months off of BB and I am just starting up again. I lost a lot of size and stength, but I train like an animal.

Soooooooo my questions! I am going to be using D-BOL, and (Possibly) a Test. Now I heard that to protect your liver you should use Milk Thistle with D-BOL. Is this true? I know the possible side effects of D-BOL, negative and possitive. I'm just wondering what is a good cycle to use, as well as any other information you can give me.

ps. If there will be comments trying to push me away from taking them, I will just ignor, this is a forsure thing, and I will be competing really soon. I take BB very seriously, so any negative comments, you're only putting stress on your fingers typing the msg.

I also just reported the thread myself because it seems to be pissing everyone off. I knew that would happen just by looking at everyone else's threads, no one seems to get along on this forum lol

***El Diablo*** · 10-14-2009, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by KrunchTyme

Fair enough. Well I'm not here to start shit. As you can read at the top I stated, "however, I don't know everything there is to know about steroids, I will admit that" as well as, "as well as any other information you can give me." You did just that, so, 1: Thank you kindly, and 2: I shall take your advice and continue with my research.

Good on u mate, at the end of the day ur doing urself a big favour by educating urself. There are alot of good info on this board that dont need AAS, and u can go check that out, u seem willing to listen and learn and big ups to u for that...
Good luck

***El Diablo*** · 10-14-2009, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by KrunchTyme

I also just reported the thread myself because it seems to be pissing everyone off. I knew that would happen just by looking at everyone else's threads, no one seems to get along on this forum lol

thats ur opinion, we all usually agree to disagree, and move on swiftly. Ay the end of the day were all here to learn, and thats the most important thing i say...

**Big** · 10-14-2009, 01:48 PM

Although I don't condone cycling at your age, if you are intent to do it anyway please take the time to also study pct, it is as important as the cycle itself, if not more.

**stpete** · 10-14-2009, 01:53 PM

If you chose to do your dbol only cycle, and i hope you don't, keep those competitive bb's close to you throughout. And especially about a week after you finish your so called cycle. Your gonna have all kinds of questions for them. Assuming you don't try to kick their asses first.
I could go on but my fingers are getting sore.

**KrunchTyme** · 10-14-2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

thats ur opinion, we all usually agree to disagree, and move on swiftly. Ay the end of the day were all here to learn, and thats the most important thing i say...

Well man I respect your posts 110%. I didn't want to upset anyone by this post, just needed some help before I made a mistake

**Critical Mass** · 10-14-2009, 01:54 PM

In bf the lock.

**KrunchTyme** · 10-14-2009, 01:56 PM

LMFAO. Okay I respect everyones opinion and posts. Just say whatever you want now lol. If you want to tear me a new one, then give er. I just need some help deciding, and if calling me an idiot or something will help my decision "not" to take them, then go nuts. Cuz now I'm on the boarder line. Before I was 100% going to do them. Now I'm 50/50

**slippz** · 10-15-2009, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by KrunchTyme

Cuz now I'm on the boarder line. Before I was 100% going to do them. Now I'm 50/50

What made you decide to change your mind?
PCT is crucial, especially at your age. Clomid and nolva are some of the more popular and well trusted pct's.

As for liver protection, liv52 and milk thistle are great for protection. Just start taking it 2-4 weeks before your cycle, and on your cycle. You can never be too sure on too much protection

I, and probably everyone else on here, don't condone the use of aas at your age, but please be smart and research and be confident that this is what you want to do if you do choose to. Starting young causes loads of problems on your liver, t-production, and life in general. Don't jump in and then decide it's not for you. It'll be too late by then.

And I don't think d-bol by itself is a good starting cycle....

**kash_123** · 10-15-2009, 08:35 AM

which am doing now for my first cycle is
1-4 weeks d bol
1 -12 weeks test e
after 10 days pct nov and clomid
if you want to can use hcg
that will help ya

**Sherman01** · 10-15-2009, 08:50 AM

You know your too young. I just want to tell you this. At 19 you can make awesome and FAST gains natural. When we tell you your too young to cycle, its not because we are trying to be jerks. Its because we are trying to help you.

At 19 you can make such awesome gains with the right training and nutrution. You have the rest of your lift to use steroids bud. There is no rush.

**hummerman** · 10-15-2009, 08:52 AM

I did my first cycle at his age and im still alive and well.

I also had a long history of good training.

The difference is i didnt have the great online education available like there is today.

Would i do things different if i could do it all over?

Yes. My diet education back then sucked and the info on my cycle's wasnt near as good as whats available here.

Take advantage of what info you can get before you commit yourself.

How ever i do not regret my younger years as i always smile when i look back at them.......lol Oh the women..........hmmmmmmmmmm

**KrunchTyme** · 10-15-2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by gsr x civic

What made you decide to change your mind?
PCT is crucial, especially at your age. Clomid and nolva are some of the more popular and well trusted pct's.

As for liver protection, liv52 and milk thistle are great for protection. Just start taking it 2-4 weeks before your cycle, and on your cycle. You can never be too sure on too much protection

I, and probably everyone else on here, don't condone the use of aas at your age, but please be smart and research and be confident that this is what you want to do if you do choose to. Starting young causes loads of problems on your liver, t-production, and life in general. Don't jump in and then decide it's not for you. It'll be too late by then.

And I don't think d-bol by itself is a good starting cycle....

Thanks man. Yeah, I'm going to do a **** load of research cuz I want everything to be planned out to a T. Like my muscles are already coming back cuz of muscle memory.

It's a damn good thing that I came to this forum, cuz I was just about to jump on them 100%.

**Sherman01** · 10-15-2009, 12:13 PM

Bro, seriously I bet if you make a deal with yourself to workout HARD and eat right for the next year without any steroid help, you will be amazed at what you can do clean. If you were 22 or 23 I would not be telling you to wait, but your 19 and really you would be shooting yourself in the foot and shortchanging yourself in the long run.

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-15-2009, 02:11 PM

I would not suggest orals but injectables for a first time cycle. If you are not ready to inject I would consider waiting before using.

Please listen, when I was your age I was accused of taking steroids . I never touched testosterone or any pro-hormones until age 32. I was able to get big by training hard and eating more calories. Back then I was under the false impression that I could take steroids and be as big as Arnold. I did not realize that genetics played a role in how well one responded to these drugs. I now understand that most people cannot get that big. It only accelerates what you already have. My wife is almost 47 and she won her first show last year as a drug free competitor. The girls she faced were not natural IMO but due to her freakish genes she beat young females who were using steroids.

We vets do our best to give out sound advice on this board. I cannot cast any judgement on you because I was once in your shoes. I am glad I did not give in to steroids as a teen. It's good to see you are giving it some thought as opposed to jumping in blindly.