why cycle with test???

[vatochingon]

ok your not supposed to run a steroid without test i see a million post about this every day ok so heres my question any steroid will shut down your natiral test production and from what i have read shooting test does nothing to stop that so is it just for neg. sexual sides because im sure test or no test you'll still see some anibolic effects

i guess im asking if its gonna get shut down either way whats the point

[Big]

Read the symptoms older men experience prior to going on trt; lethargy, lowered sense of well-being, diminished sex drive, anxiety, etc. Testosterone is what makes us men, given the option, why would yo want to go on without it? When we use compounds that suppress our testosterone production, we include a form of synthetic test to avoid the symptoms associated with low natural test.

[vatochingon]

if you could get passed those and with a proper pct then you would be fine not running test?

[Big]

I'm not sure what you mean by "get passed those". Most men require testosterone present to feel right, I've cycled suppressive compounds both with and without test to see my personal experience, and I will never again cycle without test. Some guys don't experience the same thing, most do. Personally I LOVE the feeling of being on test, so I can't fathom why someone would want to cycle otherwise or why they would want to get passed feeling like a man.

[alpmaster]

Sure, but would you like feeling like absolute shit and not being able to have sex for 12 weeks? Your a man and your body was built to run with testosterone in it's system.

You could fill a Ferrari with regular and it would go, but now, would you want to?

[vatochingon]

your right i probably wont cycle without test either, but have heard of people doing it and being fine so i just needed some clarifacation on why everyone stresses it so much which you guys did
thanks

ps my gf has cut me off for more then 12 weeks before ha ha

[BJJ]

ok your not supposed to run a steroid without test i see a million post about this every day ok so heres my question any steroid will shut down your natiral test production and from what i have read shooting test does nothing to stop that so is it just for neg. sexual sides because im sure test or no test you'll still see some anibolic effects

i guess im asking if its gonna get shut down either way whats the point

If interested this is my experience right now and it is without test, even though I have 7500 mgs of test en ready at home!

At the end, hopefully, I shall be able to raise some important conclusions, at least for me.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=403234

[vatochingon]

If interested this is my experience right now and it is without test, even though I have 7500 mgs of test en ready at home!

At the end, hopefully, I shall be able to raise some important conclusions, at least for me.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=403234

WOW! i bookmarked that thread and will check back on your progress thanks

[Big]

To expand on what BJJ said, there are a few compounds that I feel could be run without test and not yield the typical symptoms of low test, anavar, tbol, and primo come to mind.

[vatochingon]

To expand on what BJJ said, there are a few compounds that I feel could be run without test and not yield the typical symptoms of low test, anavar, tbol, and primo come to mind.

i see i havent researched these yet basically cuz my source don have them im pretty limited in what i can aquire right now but everything i do get you can bet ill run test with it