First Cycle

[irishdude]

Hi guys,
Im 23 years old.
I have been working out for 2 years on and off.
Im 164 lbs.
10% bf
6ft 2inch, size 14feet, big hands, long arms, big natural shoulders.

I am going to do a 8 week cycle, gym everyday for 1 hour. Eat 5 times a day till busting. Creatine & Shakes.

I gain weight naturally quite quickly. I wanna be 200 lbs for the new year.

I was thinking of 50mg Trenabolone A per day over 8 weeks.

I want max muscel and min water retaintion.

What eles should i take with the tren to help the cycle, i dont want anything too risky that could cause too much estrogen, or anything like that.

Ideally, im looking for someone with experience with Trenabolone A to answer my question.

Regards
Neil

[Lemonada8]

not a good idea...

first dont use tren for a first cycle...

second i bet u can gain some natty results with diet and workin out more...

welcome and keep lookin around ull find what u want... and tren a is def not it...

[chuckt12345]

NO
tren is the strongest steroid out there

[Big]

Bad cycle and bad diet.

[sigman roid]

Lets stop you there!!

you really dont want to be using tren on a first cycle not a good idea,a first cycle would consist of test only

[irishdude]

Alright fair one,

Why is it a bad idea? if i maintain a massive diet then i should have plenty of nutrients to keep the demand for them under control?

What would you recomend?

What are the negitive consequences of taking tren A at my position?

[thebigfella]

test enanthate 500mg a week for 12weeks, but get your diet sorted in the diet section bro if you want to get anywhere near 200pounds in the next few years, remember bro, eat eat eat p.s im eating as i rite this lol

[chuckt12345]

damage to your HPTA
No sex drive
Tren has alot of sides effects
look into a simple test cycle if you do anything

[irishdude]

what about a 4 week run with tren a?

[chuckt12345]

what about a 4 week run with tren a?

Bad Idea

[Razor172]

listen to what they are saying son. they know what they are saying

[thebigfella]

forget the tren son, u aint ready.
sort ya diet, am talkin 8 high protein meals a day plus shakes
then run test enanthate 500mg a week, 250mg monday, 250 thursday,
if you think you can cope i would buy some d-bol and have this at 40mg aday for the first 5 weeks of ya cycle.
this was my first cycle more or less and i had great gains off it
im over 200pounds and had 6cycles and stil aint touched tren brother

week 1-12 test enth 500mg a week
wek 1-5 d-bol 40mg a day

pct
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

in my opinion this is a excellent cycle and will help you reach your goals

[tboney]

Forget it all... At 6'2 164 lbs he should focus on diet and training. Thats it for now!!

[irishdude]

thanks guys for your advice.

What would be the problem with tren though lol?
What makes my lower weight a negitive when on tren? what may go wrong with someone on a higher weight?

[Researcher]

thanks guys for your advice.

What would be the problem with tren though lol?
What makes my lower weight a negitive when on tren? what may go wrong with someone on a higher weight?

Well try it out then lol? Everyone here is telling you it has the harshest side effects of any steroid . If it's funny then disregard everyones advice and use it up. It's your body.

[irishdude]

Well try it out then lol? Everyone here is telling you it has the harshest side effects of any steroid. If it's funny then disregard everyones advice and use it up. It's your body.

lol, thanks man, u have answered my question