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    HCG math question

    First of all thanks to anyone who can help me out. I've read the stickies and used the search function, I just want to make sure everything is right before I put something into my body.

    I have: 10 ml sterile viles.
    1500 iu amps of HCG
    1ml amps of solvent
    30 ml of bacteriostatic water

    How do I mix the HCG so that each shot equals 500iu? With that mix, how much will 500 iu be in an insulin needle?

    Thanks again guys.

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    how much total hcg do you have, how many iu?

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    If you add 3ml bacteriostatic water to the 1500iu, each 1ml would equal 500iu. Most slin pins are a 1ml syringe, so 1 full syringe would be 500iu.
    There are many ways to do it, that is just one example.

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    if you use just 1 ML of solvent..... you'll only need to inject 1/3 of a cc instead of the full insulin syringe of water..... My reason for doing it this way is because I don't like injecting a lot of water close to the surface.

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    If you decide to use just 1ml of solvent..... you'll pull the insulin syringe up to the 3rd big marking (the 30iu marking) and a little past it. Each shot will equal roughly 500iu's of HCG .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    if you use just 1 ML of solvent..... you'll only need to inject 1/3 of a cc instead of the full insulin syringe of water..... My reason for doing it this way is because I don't like injecting a lot of water close to the surface.

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    So 1/3 of a cc is 1/3 of the slin pin, correct? Thanks bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Researcher View Post
    So 1/3 of a cc is 1/3 of the slin pin, correct? Thanks bro.
    correct..... most slin pins are 1ml/cc - I've only seen 1.5ml/cc slin pins in the hospital.

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    ya i dont like inject too much cold liquid, feels wierd. i inject my hcg IM though.

    i agree 1ml of BW is prob best bet

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    Honestly..... I would probably just stick with 300iu's twice a week...... it'll be easier to measure too.

    1ml of solvent will equal 1500iu's/ml - each slin pin is marked every 10iu's. Each 10iu marking would equal 150iu's. Pull it up to the 2 marking and you've got 300iu'sof HCG .

    As big said.... theres a lot of ways to doit.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic View Post
    ya i dont like inject too much cold liquid, feels wierd. i inject my hcg IM though.

    i agree 1ml of BW is prob best bet
    I do also.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    Honestly..... I would probably just stick with 300iu's twice a week...... it'll be easier to measure too.

    1ml of solvent will equal 1500iu's/ml - each slin pin is marked every 10iu's. Each 10iu marking would equal 150iu's. Pull it up to the 2 marking and you've got 300iu'sof HCG .

    As big said.... theres a lot of ways to doit.....

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    600 iu's a week will be enough to prevent testicular atrophy? If so that would be much easier for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic View Post
    ya i dont like inject too much cold liquid, feels wierd. i inject my hcg IM though.

    i agree 1ml of BW is prob best bet
    why not let it get to room temp 1st?

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    when its a small amount it doesnt matter, large amounts feel wierd, lke 1cc

    HCG is suppose to be kept in the fridge, so my logic is if its suppose to be kept that way then ill inject it that way. never heard otherwise

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    I'm curious why do you inject intramuscularly? I would have thought sub-cutaneous is less invasive.

    By the way I have a quick question: I've done intramuscular injections on myself before and I've no problem doing it, no pain. However I've done two sub-cutaneous injections on myself before and they stung like a mother-f***er, honestly I had difficulty even getting 1iu into me! Do all sub-cutaneous injections sting, or would it be because I was injecting dodgy s**t? (it was Melanotan in an unmarked vial)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic View Post
    HCG is suppose to be kept in the fridge, so my logic is if its suppose to be kept that way then ill inject it that way. never heard otherwise
    It's not gonna stay cold for very long if it's inside your body... so you may as well give it the extra 10 minutes or so to warm up a bit. Back when I injected Melanotan I used to keep the vial in my fridge, but then when I loaded a syringe I would leave it out for maybe 10 minutes or so. Such a small amount of liquid heats up very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Researcher View Post
    600 iu's a week will be enough to prevent testicular atrophy? If so that would be much easier for me.
    600iu's should be good - If you feel you need more..... increase it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almond View Post
    I'm curious why do you inject intramuscularly? I would have thought sub-cutaneous is less invasive.

    By the way I have a quick question: I've done intramuscular injections on myself before and I've no problem doing it, no pain. However I've done two sub-cutaneous injections on myself before and they stung like a mother-f***er, honestly I had difficulty even getting 1iu into me! Do all sub-cutaneous injections sting, or would it be because I was injecting dodgy s**t? (it was Melanotan in an unmarked vial)
    did you make sure to let the alcohol from the swabbing dry before you injected? Sometimes that can cause pain......

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    That's something to consider next time, I usually have my skin soaking wet with alcohol before I pop the needle in. There was one occasion on which I wasn't able to inject the entire 1iu, I got about half of 3/4 of it in and it stung so bad that I pulled the needle out.

    Is it possible to do a Sub-Q injection on your stomach without it stinging really bad?

    One other thing: Back when I was doing intramuscular injections of Sustanon250 and Testoviron250, I used to have my skin soaking wet with alcohol before I popped the needle in, but it never stung. Maybe it's different going into subcutaneous fat though.

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    5000iu mixed with 10ml bact water will = 250iu per .5 ml correct?

    Can it be preloaded and kept in fridge for up to 10 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JinNtonic View Post
    5000iu mixed with 10ml bact water will = 250iu per .5 ml correct?

    Can it be preloaded and kept in fridge for up to 10 weeks?
    the math is correct, constituted with bacteroistatic I trust it up to 30 days, personally I toss it after that.

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