Can some veterans help a newbie with a cycle?

[Trying to bench 200]

Ok. Here are my stats.(yes, I do relize that I'm a small guy haha)
Height: 5'7
Weight: 133 lbs
Body fat: less than 10%
I'm going to be on Anavar. My question is, how many mgs should I take and for how long? And has anybody had positive/negative results with this drug? Thanks for you help! Very appreciated

[D7M]

how old are you and how long have you been working out?

[Trying to bench 200]

I'm 19 and just started working out 2 weeks ago, 5 times a week.

[D7M]

please don't start even thinking about steroids yet, not only are you way to young,

you've only started working out.

stick around and read in the diet and work out forums,

you'll be surprised the progress you can make at your age with a good diet and training program

[Trying to bench 200]

I've already reached my natural max. Done protein shakes, 4000 calories a day, everything you know. I'm doing this with or without your help. (F.Y.I. the 2 weeks workout I just said was a typo, it was actually 22 weeks.)

[D7M]

sounds like you have your mind made up.

but, just for the hell of it, can I see your daily 4,000cal diet?

[Trying to bench 200]

Here you go. I'm an MMA fighter so its important for me to keep track of most of this stuff.

6:00 am Breakfast:

56 grams Protein powder
3 cups Milk, low fat (1%)
2 cups Cereal, cold
2 cups Blueberries
6 tbsp Almonds, slivered
77g P - 99g C - 18g F
Calories: 866

9:00 am Snack:

1/2 cup Cottage cheese, light/low fat
56 grams Protein powder
2 cups Grapes
3 tbsp Barley
1 1/5 oz Sunflower seeds
70g P - 90g C - 18g F
Calories: 802

12:00 pm Lunch:

4 1/2 oz Chicken breast
4 oz Cheese, low or non fat
4 cups Vegetable soup
4 Crackers
3 whole Pita
12 Peanuts
77g P - 99g C - 18g F
Calories: 866

3:00 pm Snack:

49 grams Protein powder
1 1/2 cups Yogurt, plain, low fat
1 1/2 tbsp Barley
3 tbsp Almonds, slivered
1 tsp Olive, Flax, Hemp or Salmon Oils
2 Tangerines
70g P - 99g C - 18g F
Calories: 758

6:00 pm Dinner:

11 oz Beef, lean cuts
4 cups Cauliflower
2 cups Rice
6 tbsp Almonds, slivered
1 1/3 cups Fruit juice
77g P - 99g C - 18g F
Calories: 806

Total Daily Portions: Protein: 421g Carbohydrates: 494g Fat: 98g Calories: 4005

[Trying to bench 200]

It's a really strict diet, however, it works! I highly recommend it in case you want to try it. Some people add more calories to up it to 5000cal a day. Usually they add an extra snack at 9:00pm.

[Big]

If the diet works well, why are you 133lbs? And even if it was a typo, 22 weeks is no where near long enough to reach your natural potential, that's not even 6 months.

[Trying to bench 200]

I was 119 pounds fighting at flyweight then I started this diet. And yeah, I'm pretty sure I've reached my natural max. My bench has been at 190 for the last 2 months. My dead lifts have come to a steady stop as well.

[wanna_be_big]

no man, you need to wait until you are at least 25 years old, try to change your workout routine + good clean diet + resting and sleeping well, you will notice a difference for sure...

[ottomaddox]

Kids?

[07sandiegomuscle]

Everyone in this forum is against someone your age doing aas. Your body is too young and will get damaged. Be patient! You are super dumb to believe you have maxed out your natural muscle gains! You need to change up your weightlifting routine to make some more gains. Your muscles got used to your routine. Also, an anavar only cycle is practically unheard of. Maybe completely unheard of and definitely totally NOT recommended. Atleast, in my several hundred hours of reading and researching it isn't supported. At 19, your natural test. production is like 1000mg a month whereas many of us on here being older are only producing 500mg a month or less. Use what you got naturally. Change your workout routine.

[markhyena]

I also dont believe that your using that diet as it was posted by someone else earlier today....

please listen to these guys... they know what they are talking about AND ...IF you are a MMA fighter they will test you for anabolics.... trust me ive been in the game for 15 years...

[ghettoboyd]

Everyone in this forum is against someone your age doing aas. Your body is too young and will get damaged. Be patient! You are super dumb to believe you have maxed out your natural muscle gains! You need to change up your weightlifting routine to make some more gains. Your muscles got used to your routine. Also, an anavar only cycle is practically unheard of. Maybe completely unheard of and definitely totally NOT recommended. Atleast, in my several hundred hours of reading and researching it isn't supported. At 19, your natural test. production is like 1000mg a month whereas many of us on here being older are only producing 500mg a month or less. Use what you got naturally. Change your workout routine.

i now your new and all and i agree with the op not being ready for aas.....but your assesment of an anavar cycle being compleaty unheard of is off....anavar is one of the few oral only cycles that are widely accepted....that being said please op review your diet and exercise routien and try to tweek that first and gain more natty.....your just too young bro....you have your whole life to get big.....patience young grasshoppa'....

[Big]

i now your new and all and i agree with the op not being ready for aas.....but your assesment of an anavar cycle being compleaty unheard of is off....anavar is one of the few oral only cycles that are widely accepted....that being said please op review your diet and exercise routien and try to tweek that first and gain more natty.....your just too young bro....you have your whole life to get big.....patience young grasshoppa'....

exactly, anavar only cycles are fine, but certainly not for this kid.

[marcus300]

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

[sully15]

really? you think your natural max is at 133 pounds?.. you hit your first plateau in the gym and think you've reached your natural max?

you just hit a wall, it happens to everyone.. you'll hit a dozen more before you reach your true natural limit. You gotta learn how to change things up and just force your body to break threw each plateau

[Big]

you really should look into your premature aging issue, you were 18 a couple weeks ago:

Ahh ok. But will it make me any stronger?

And to everyone else, im 18.

you were 19 in this thread, and now today you're 25:

Okay so your 20 years old. Alot of people (I just looked above) said don't do steroids. You could train natrually, but hey your looking to get buff/strong right? I started doings steroids when I was 16 (only did 2 cycles, but it was still fun) and I never had regretted it yet! Besides that fact that I blew hundreds of dollars on scams and sht.

What type of roid should you take? Well.....
I suggest taking 20mgs of anavar everyday. Its the most mild oral steroid out there. So there is little chance of you losing hair, building high blood pressure, and other side affects. But its still powerful to use! I suggest looking at the steroid effectiveness chart on the homepage(its on the right sidebar). You will see that anavar give 8 out of 10 when getting stronger, but you wont gain to much weight.

Yeah go with anavar and a good diet. You should be perfect. I did just a week after my 16th b-day. Im 25 now, and about to go on another cycle.

Goodluck! Trust me, anavar is the way to go !

at this rate you'll die of old age before the end of the year.

[Kibble]

Ohhhh SNAP SON! I think he went on to make another username...

[urbanbody]

This is hilarious.

[marcus300]

you really should look into your premature aging issue, you were 18 a couple weeks ago:

you were 19 in this thread, and now today you're 25:


at this rate you'll die of old age before the end of the year.

hahahaah busted, that last sentance is so funny