Can I get some help with the finishing touches on my cycle?

**sm15** · 10-25-2009, 07:41 PM

hey guys,
just about got everything for my next cycle.
750 mg test e per week
500 mg tren e per week
400 mg masteron per week
Hcg throughout cycle
Clomid & nolva & proviron for pct

I've got letro to combat any progestinic sides particurlarly gyno. The letro will also take care of any estrogenic sides with the test. I will be taking t3 & b complex throughout the cycle too. My main concern is my hair on tren. I've done tren once before and my hair started to thin real bad when I was coming off. Eventually it thickened back up but im trying to prevent it this time. What should i take to prevent any hairloss. Would nioxin shampoo be a good enough dht blocker to handle it??
I don't know a lot about bromo or caber.
Have i got all the prolactin/progestin and dht issues covered? If not please let me know.
Thanks for the help guys

**SuperLift** · 10-25-2009, 09:26 PM

that looks like a decent cycle should be able to put on some pretty nice lean gains with a clean diet

**redz** · 10-25-2009, 09:54 PM

Give us some stats and cycle history.

**TITANIUM** · 10-25-2009, 10:09 PM

I would run adex during cycle and save the letro for potential gyno.

Caber is a good idea.

I would also run the proviron during cycle and not in the pct.IMO

That's basically my next cycle.

Looks good.

Best

T

**sm15** · 10-26-2009, 07:29 AM

what will the caber do for me i'm not to familiar with it. Its my 4th cycle. all but 1 are test/deca cycles. One was tren ace winny and prop which was by far the most productive cycle. proviron is yet another dht is it not? I was running hcg throughout cycle to make recovery easier during pct. My proviron is left over from a past cycle and i just had enough to incorporate into pct.
I'm just making sure i have all my bases covered here as far as progestin induced gyno and the hair loss thing cuz of the tren and masteron . Hoep i'm not leaving anything out lemme know if i am. thanks for the input fellas.

**marcus300** · 10-26-2009, 08:18 AM

I would drop the letro, its to powerfull and you need estrogen to grow, so i would get some a-dex which will be far better and get some caber.

Just to comment on the cycle it looks good, but we need your stats and cycle history to advice if your ready for such a cycle

**tballz** · 10-26-2009, 09:53 AM

For hair loss I would use dutasteride. About .5mg ed at the beginning of cycle through pct. You can get it at the ar-r store.

**RANA** · 10-26-2009, 10:20 AM

If you're that worried about hair I wouldn't use Mast.

**sm15** · 10-26-2009, 12:07 PM

well i have a hell of a full head of hair. Just a precaution like i siad when i used tren before it thinned out at the end of cycle so i figured with the masteron it could be worse when i was coming off. I've got adex to run. ill just read up on caber and get some dutasteride.
cycle history is up there.
stats:
25 yrs old
5'11
210 lbs
bout 13 % bf

**sm15** · 10-26-2009, 03:11 PM

is the caber just for help with libido issues due to raised prolactin levels or does is help with anything else. Should the test not keep libido up or am i off base?

**RANA** · 10-26-2009, 03:30 PM

you will have a high libido but your erections won't be has hard

**sm15** · 10-26-2009, 03:32 PM

i see. caber it is then. thanks for the help guys.

**Swifto** · 11-03-2009, 03:31 PM

Caber 0.5mg/E3d.

Arimidex 0.5mg/EOD.

Clomid 50/25/25/25/25
Tamox 20/20/20/02/20

**tripmachine** · 11-03-2009, 03:44 PM

don't forget the viagra.... =P 100mg pills are really nice to have on hand JUST IN CASE....

cycle looks really good though, I think you'd be happy....

**Swifto** · 11-04-2009, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by sm15

hey guys,
just about got everything for my next cycle.
750 mg test e per week
500 mg tren e per week
400 mg masteron per week
Hcg throughout cycle
Clomid & nolva & proviron for pct

Drop the Tren 4-5 weeks before the Test Enan. Users seem to report faster recovery this way. Then run the Test/Mast/HCG.

Some like Proviron for PCT, others dont. In some it hinder HPTA restoration, whilst it doesnt affect others (me). I like it at 25mg/ED. Massive boost in labido.

I've got letro to combat any progestinic sides particurlarly gyno. The letro will also take care of any estrogenic sides with the test. I will be taking t3 & b complex throughout the cycle too. My main concern is my hair on tren. I've done tren once before and my hair started to thin real bad when I was coming off. Eventually it thickened back up but im trying to prevent it this time. What should i take to prevent any hairloss. Would nioxin shampoo be a good enough dht blocker to handle it??

You'de need to look into a 5AR-inhibitor, like Finastride for MPB. But androgens will only accelerate something that has a high chance of happening, not CAUSE hairloss.

Letro wont act on progesterone, but that wont be a problem. It may lower PgR by lowering E. Estrogen and prolactin are more of a worry. Control E with Arimidex 0.5mg/EOD or Aromasin 10mg/EOD IMHO. Letro should only be used occassionally when times permit.

I don't know a lot about bromo or caber.

Dopamine antagonist will lower PRL (prolactin) and its best to keep on on hand when using 19-Nors. Just to be safe. Tamoxifen wil also help with gyno, if it arises.

Have i got all the prolactin/progestin and dht issues covered? If not please let me know.
Thanks for the help guys

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**CasualDavit** · 11-04-2009, 05:16 PM

I thought finasteride wouldn't help hair loss with tren as it doesnt convert to dht through 5-Alpha reductase. It would help with the testosterone though - which could give less hair loss overall.