Preparing for first cycle Test E

[thenextcutler]

Only one question in regards to gear left in my mind... dose for Test E for a first cycle?

I see that some people run 500mg in the first instance, but many maintain that this is a waste of gear as my virgin body will react excellent to a much lower does at 250-300. And of course the bonus being presumably less sides from a lower dose.

I'm not concerned about getting the most size in the shortest time or I would incorporate Dbol and other things... I just want to start a cycle of test and see how my body reacts. My only fear is that I would under dose and make it a complete waste of time and money. What's the least that can be used and still obtain reasonable gains?

and btw no PCT advise here please, only worried about the cycle right now.

[marcus300]

What are your stats?

You will be fine wil around 400-500mgs per wk for your first cycle.

[redz]

You will be fine wil around 400-500mgs per wk for your first cycle.

Aggreed 250-300mg/weekly is far too low dont forget that there is an ester attatched so 250mg of test e is not actually 250mg of raw test.

[sigman roid]

Wheres the stats??

[dec11]

def wouldnt go lower than 500mg per wk

[Hatchman33]

Yes eventhough you are young you can go up to 750mg and be fine. Im 21 years old 5'11" 210lbs and have taken 800mg of test 400 and was fine. As long as you have your PCT knowledge covered i think you will do just fine mate! Eat right and train right when you get off cycle and you will be golden!

[sigman roid]

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[marcus300]

Yes eventhough you are young you can go up to 750mg and be fine. Im 21 years old 5'11" 210lbs and have taken 800mg of test 400 and was fine. As long as you have your PCT knowledge covered i think you will do just fine mate! Eat right and train right when you get off cycle and you will be golden!

You have no idea what your talking about and giving advice like this is reckless, if you want to cycle at such a young age you do it but dont tell someone else he will be ok when clearly there is a risk he wont be.

Just check the OP stats and he is 22 yrs old, so with that in mind you dont want to be concerned about the dosage, you want to be concerned about causing yourself damage to your HPTA, shutting your own hormonal system down before its fully developed can cause you serious issues what you dont want to be having at such a young age, your to young to cycle.

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

[sigman roid]

250mg of Test a week is kinda waste. Your body produces about 200mg of Test a week naturally and I see no point using synthetic Test with the benefit of about 50mg and shutting you down.

IMO, I'd recommend a proper cycle of D-bol & Test E.

Week 1-5: 30-50mg D-bol ED
Week 1-12: 500mg Test E EW

PCT

Week 14-15: 40mg Nolvadex ED
Week 16-17: 20mg Nolvadex ED

As this is your virgin cycle, this cycle should be an eye opener for you.
Do understand that your understanding for diet is the ground work before you even touch any steroids.
Too many times, dudes do not understand a single thing about dieting and started using steroids.
The results: Total waste of money to buy tons of side effects.
Hope it helps.

You dont produce 200mg of test naturally a week

[thenextcutler]

I appreciate any concern over me being 22, and I know some of you are shaking your heads right now, however I have lost sleep many nights staying up and browsing forums and I have made my decision... let me rephrase my original question:

Has anyone when they were in their 20's used a 300mg cycle test-e ONLY and been pleased with the results?


sorry didn't post stats this morning when you asked, had to go to bed (nightshift), see this address for them: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=405643

[chitownhoker]

I appreciate any concern over me being 22, and I know some of you are shaking your heads right now, however I have lost sleep many nights staying up and browsing forums and I have made my decision... let me rephrase my original question:

Has anyone when they were in their 20's used a 300mg cycle test-e ONLY and been pleased with the results?


sorry didn't post stats this morning when you asked, had to go to bed (nightshift), see this address for them: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=405643

im 22 doing my first cycle of about 330/week or .7ml of 250 test twice per week

just started week three. Im on armidex .25eod and nolva 10mg/day....ive had gyno, had the surgery dont want it again

ive gone from 194 to 204 in the first two weeks. yest that is all water, but what if i had taken 500 per week????

Your most solid and keepable gains happen to about week 8 from what i understand. I don't want to "blow up" i want to make a solid 10 pounds of gain and keep it which is why this cycle will run for only 9 or 10 weeks.

at this point i am happy i stayed at a lower dose

[thenextcutler]

im 22 doing my first cycle of about 330/week or .7ml of 250 test twice per week

just started week three. Im on armidex .25eod and nolva 10mg/day....ive had gyno, had the surgery dont want it again

ive gone from 194 to 204 in the first two weeks. yest that is all water, but what if i had taken 500 per week????

Your most solid and keepable gains happen to about week 8 from what i understand. I don't want to "blow up" i want to make a solid 10 pounds of gain and keep it which is why this cycle will run for only 9 or 10 weeks.

at this point i am happy i stayed at a lower dose

What's the significance of using armidex when you are running Nolva? any sides yet with acne, testy atrophy, etc.?

You seem to have a very similar mind set to me, please keep me updated or send a link if you have a log thread.