REANDRON 1000 (Test undec)

[Skippa]

Hi guys, I just wanted a couple opinions. My mate is about to go on cycle. (no not me)
These are his stats
32
6ft 3
122 kgs
10% fat
7-8 cycles before
Eats like a horse

He has been offered REANDRON 1000 for this cycle, which is Testosterone Undeconate. He is unsure because its such a long ester.
From what i can gather most people assume that Test UD has a half half of 16.5 days, but i have found some interesting data that confuses the hell outta me.
http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/Profs/dat...ron1000inj.htm

Endos are scripting this stuff at 1000mg every 10-14 weeks.
"Injections with this frequency are capable of maintaining sufficient testosterone levels and do not lead to accumulation." that said, does this challenge that the half life of this ester is longer than once thought?

How should this be cycled?

Length, dosage, Injection timing and PCT starting time.

Considering his normal coarse would only be 500mg sustanon/week, 200-400mg Deca for 12/10 weeks respectively for the past 5 or 6.

Just need some clarification please. Any input would be helpful

Thanks guys

[Skippa]

[Narkissos]

Personally I wouldn't use it for anything other than TRT.

Bump for Marcus.

[chuckt12345]

i mean if he wants to take it just as a test base to keep his levels normal than it will work. but it will not suffice on its own.

[ottomaddox]

That's a good drug for TRT, but the ultra long ester could get tricky with PCT. Why not use something more readily available like Test-Cyp or Enth.

[marcus300]

Its only a matter of time before Nebido does catch on with regards to cycling, its not available world-wide yet so I would think it will take some time before it does catch on. I'm on Nebido and its far the greatest form of HRT on this planet in my opinion, there isn't anything really new here its plain old TU set in castor oil in a big volume injection.
You can use it to cycle with, after all its Testosterone and if you correctly design a cycle you could produce great weekly levels with alot less injections, but personally I dont know anyone who as ran it as a cycle but if I remember right Dave Palumbo rates the stuff and he thinks it will catch on big time with bodybuilders for using within their cycles.

The increase in serum test levels from one injection is amazing and will deliver a steady release over time from the reservoir site, Palumbo stated in MD magazine if you took 3000mgs (3 amps) of this stuff all at once it would sustain test levels for the next 10-12 weeks at the same rate as 500-750mgs of test cyp would weekly, less frequent injection and no lumpy sites makes is a very good alternative...

Ive seen many different half lifes stated for Nebido in many papers ive seen it say 34days but on the leaflet within Nebdio is states a half life of 90±40 days, recently ive found out what ± means and it means -

The plus-minus sign (±) is a mathematical symbol commonly used to indicate the precision of an approximation, or as a convenient notation for a value that can be of either sign. In mathematics, the sign is pronounced "plus or minus" and indicates that there are two possible answers: one positive, and one negative. In most experimental sciences, the sign is pronounced "give or take" and indicates an inclusive range of values that a reading might have.

So which ever way you read it its got one hell of a half life which can be very tricky carrying out PCT, but if your not HRT this drug could be great for cycling on and off with. The trouble is ive only seen Dave P mention this for cycling and ive not seen anyone use this product yet to conduct a cycle with, if your not on HRT then this drug could cause you problems because of the very long half life and starting PCT, do you really want to wait that long to start PCT?? but if you are on HRT then this could be a god send.

[Merc.]

Also check out Marcus Nebido thread ..

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ghlight=nebido



Merc.

[Skippa]

Thank you for your responses guys.

90±40 days sounds a little unpredictable, especially for PCT start timing. Although its interesting you saying
"Palumbo stated in MD magazine if you took 3000mgs (3 amps) of this stuff all at once it would sustain test levels for the next 10-12 weeks at the same rate as 500-750mgs of test cyp would weekly, less frequent injection and no lumpy sites makes is a very good alternative..." Markus.

also your other threat and the study at http://www.fiercebiotech.com/node/7168 were a good read.

I think from what ive read this stuff is great for those of you on HRT as im sure your weekly or fortnightly injections must be a pain in the ass. But as for cycling sticking to shorter esters that can be controlled may be the far better option.

If anyone dose try a Cycle of this stuff please log it to the board as it would be interesting to see what comes of it.

Cheers

Skip

[marcus300]

Thank you for your responses guys.

90±40 days sounds a little unpredictable, especially for PCT start timing. Although its interesting you saying
"Palumbo stated in MD magazine if you took 3000mgs (3 amps) of this stuff all at once it would sustain test levels for the next 10-12 weeks at the same rate as 500-750mgs of test cyp would weekly, less frequent injection and no lumpy sites makes is a very good alternative..." Markus.

also your other threat and the study at http://www.fiercebiotech.com/node/7168 were a good read.

I think from what ive read this stuff is great for those of you on HRT as im sure your weekly or fortnightly injections must be a pain in the ass. But as for cycling sticking to shorter esters that can be controlled may be the far better option.

If anyone dose try a Cycle of this stuff please log it to the board as it would be interesting to see what comes of it.

Cheers

Skip

I think using Nebido for cycling will come one day but careful planning is needed, at this moment in time I feel using other forms of Test would be better if your planning on doing PCT