Anavar and Winny...>WOOPS?? ADVICE! Please Help

[Diesel1978]

Whats up gang. First post new member.
I have recently come off of a Winny T3 stack of 8 weeks back in the summer and I went from 224 to 210 with much more hardness and a 36-33 belt line and I am 6-1. I am 30 years old 12% bf maybe less, hell if I know, you can see 4 of my 6 abs so im lean but not that lean. I am relatively experienced having been a college athlete with experience in Sust 250 once and 2 other times winny with clen. I like to look good with my shirt off but I am more about fitness and strength and feeling strong than flexing for the girls. I am 31 and married and just dont care to be Arnold anymore. With the gear and my athletic lifestyle I look fine but I just like to be hard and have an edge.
I just got my Anavar and Winny in the dropper form (ps has anyone seen these in this form and do you think it is legit? My guy is legit as far as i know and I am a pretty good judge of charector) and I was going to stack it but I think i may have screwed up with my ideology.

Everything I read says liver toxicity and Hdl kickback when stacking these two together. I read, "add test or do one or the other", what does everyone think? Here is what I am thinking right now since I dont want to screw up my insides so I can see my kid graduate college.

1. Take the winny until completion and then take the Anavar until completion with a possible break in the middle of a month or so.
2. Take one day of winny then take one day of Anavar. (Not so sure if this the chemistry works here considering half life in your system, etc etc.)
3. Get some test (WHAT KIND, ADVISE?) and stack it with either the Winny or the Anavar. (Which One? Please Advise)

What I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT IS TO LOOK PUFFY AND BLOATED AND "ON GEAR" NO WAY NO HOW. Lean and mean is the name of the game. Some may come back to me here and say this is not possible but I am open to suggestion. I dont like to look puffy cause I am already 210 but am naturally prone to being overweight. Its in my family so I do not want to get to paint to where when I come off gear I just get puffier. Winny has always made me able to run faster stronger longer and look harder I am simply trying to take it to the next level.

Thanks,

[tboney]

I dont know where to start. You need to read up a bit before you take anything! All I can say is that you need to go to the steroid profiles section and read all about the compounds. But before that you need to make sure that your diet and training are in check.

[tboney]

Whats up gang. First post new member.
I have recently come off of a Winny T3 stack of 8 weeks back in the summer and I went from 224 to 210 with much more hardness and a 36-33 belt line and I am 6-1. I am 30 years old 12% bf maybe less, hell if I know, you can see 4 of my 6 abs so im lean but not that lean. I am relatively experienced having been a college athlete with experience in Sust 250 once and 2 other times winny with clen. I like to look good with my shirt off but I am more about fitness and strength and feeling strong than flexing for the girls. I am 31 and married and just dont care to be Arnold anymore. With the gear and my athletic lifestyle I look fine but I just like to be hard and have an edge.
I just got my Anavar and Winny in the dropper form (ps has anyone seen these in this form and do you think it is legit? My guy is legit as far as i know and I am a pretty good judge of charector) and I was going to stack it but I think i may have screwed up with my ideology.

Everything I read says liver toxicity and Hdl kickback when stacking these two together. I read, "add test or do one or the other", what does everyone think? Here is what I am thinking right now since I dont want to screw up my insides so I can see my kid graduate college.

1. Take the winny until completion and then take the Anavar until completion with a possible break in the middle of a month or so.
2. Take one day of winny then take one day of Anavar. (Not so sure if this the chemistry works here considering half life in your system, etc etc.)
3. Get some test (WHAT KIND, ADVISE?) and stack it with either the Winny or the Anavar. (Which One? Please Advise)

What I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT IS TO LOOK PUFFY AND BLOATED AND "ON GEAR" NO WAY NO HOW. Lean and mean is the name of the game. Some may come back to me here and say this is not possible but I am open to suggestion. I dont like to look puffy cause I am already 210 but am naturally prone to being overweight. Its in my family so I do not want to get to paint to where when I come off gear I just get puffier. Winny has always made me able to run faster stronger longer and look harder I am simply trying to take it to the next level.

Thanks,

You mention nothing about pct which tells me that you lack the fundamental knowledge that would make a cycle even remotely reasonable for you. I am not trying to be harsh but you should not even think about it until you do more research.

[Diesel1978]

No Its cool man tell me. What is PCT? I am a work in the laboratory industry and have very good knowledge of chemistry and human body profiles for everything from Lipids and their sup lipo proteins as well as endocrinology. So I will understand what you say. I have been training and follow a strict Body-for-Life eating regiment when training hard. I eat volumetric type meals with lots of fish, chicken, lean beef, and non starchy veggies. I would say I live that way 90% of the time. I just need to know what type of gear works with what I have listed. My training is good i think; 3-5 days a week weight training and 3 days a week cardio being active 6 of 7 days a week taking one day off to watch football.
Please no offense give me any advice! Thanks!

[redz]

No Its cool man tell me. What is PCT?

Please refrain from using steroids until you have atleast some knowledge on cycling. You are doing more harm than good.

[Diesel1978]

OK Nevermind just read a threat on PCT.

[tboney]

Oh boy.... Ok, its cool. You sound like an intelligent guy so here is what I recommend. Go to the AAS section and read the stickies. They are the first bunch of posts in red. Read them throuoghly, then go to the pct section and do the same. This is a great board you will get all the help you need as long as you do the research first.

[tboney]

OK Nevermind just read a threat on PCT.

It will take more than that. You also need to read about the compounds. The other issue is that aas will do nothing for you without proper diet and weight training.

[Diesel1978]

I will go read thanks for the advise bro! I guess I do need to edamacate myself more than just following a dosage then running and jamming weights. Thats cool I respect that.

Any advice on cycling and which compounds to use and how to use them since I already own the stuff?

[tboney]

After you read up then come back and I know that there are lots of guys, including myself that will be happy to advise you. Its just always better to have a complete understanding for yourself first. You could get some knucklehead that gives you shitty advice and if you didnt know better it could harm you. Look forward to hearing back from you!

[redz]

I agree with the above, I like to help but really you need more knowledge before touching any steroids.

[Diesel1978]

Ok cool thanks guys!