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    stacking steroids? or not stacking?

    okay so ive noticed on this forum their are various cycles people begin

    say its a person 3rd or 4th cycle
    ( i want to address that this is bulking purposes, NOT INTERESTED IN LEANING CYCLES)

    some look like this
    500mg test
    500mg deca
    weekly for 12-16 weeks,

    then their are other cycles that are just

    1000mg test
    weekly for 12 weeks

    in both cycles arimidex is used, and nolva kept on hand obviously

    so i wanted opinions and to debate, do u think stacking different steroids is better in a cycle?

    or simply 1 steroid alone like testerone could achieve great results with minimal sides

    just wanted to know people opinions, becuase ive seen alot of people stack steroids more often then run 1 steroid alone

    obviously the only steroid u would prob only run alone is testerone

    but i wonder do u think using various steroids is better in a cycle? ive heard of synergeestic effects of steroids but at same time theirs no real proof of this occouring, the only real evidence is becuase your using more steroids your going to grow more

    at the same time using various steroids could cause more difficult side effects to combat since they all act in different manners

    opinions guys please? remeber i am discussing BULKING cycles only

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    My thought is this, each steroid effects/builds muscle differently and effects the body differently such stacking Test/Deca . We all know if you take only deca it will shut your test down and you can experience severe side effect. If you are only to take say 1000 or 1500 mg of test isnt more better? No because then you run a higher risk of raising your estrogen and getting gyno or other side effect including ED.

    I believe this is why people stack instead of just running higher doses to limit the negative side effect and to get the most out of the different producs.

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    Of course 1000mg test is better than 500mg test even stacked with deca .
    But side effects is worse on 1000mg test than 500mg also.

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    there is a point of diminishing gains and increased sides that will vary with different individuals. I've know guys who grew like a weed at 300mg/week, they certainly would not have grown 10 times as much off of 3000mg/week, however the sides at that dose would likely have been tremendous.
    personally test does not pack on mass like a 19nor, but I love the way I feel on test, so I cycle them together for the advantages of both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omna82 View Post
    Of course 1000mg test is better than 500mg test even stacked with deca .
    But side effects is worse on 1000mg test than 500mg also.
    yes but couldnt the use of nolva during a cycle prevent this?
    i mean iof we were to stack say test/deca at 500mg wouldnt decas progesterone side effects elevate testerones aromatise sides? aswell as cause sides from the progesterone making it more difficult to combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    My thought is this, each steroid effects/builds muscle differently and effects the body differently such stacking Test/Deca. We all know if you take only deca it will shut your test down and you can experience severe side effect. If you are only to take say 1000 or 1500 mg of test isnt more better? No because then you run a higher risk of raising your estrogen and getting gyno or other side effect including ED.

    I believe this is why people stack instead of just running higher doses to limit the negative side effect and to get the most out of the different producs.
    agree steroids do work differently, but as i mentioned to onna couldnt the use of nolva and arimidex prevent mos sides from testerone aromatization?
    and running both deca and test can make side effect more difficult to combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    there is a point of diminishing gains and increased sides that will vary with different individuals. I've know guys who grew like a weed at 300mg/week, they certainly would not have grown 10 times as much off of 3000mg/week, however the sides at that dose would likely have been tremendous.
    personally test does not pack on mass like a 19nor, but I love the way I feel on test, so I cycle them together for the advantages of both.
    agree their is apoint of diminishing gains but it seems an anabolic like test diminishing returns are hard to estimate since from my reading people continuosly receive better results from testerone up to using dosages of a gram

    as for ur point on how different steroids pack on muscle differently i c ur point and why people would stack steroids

    so do u think stacking steroids is better? or do u think running testerone alone at a higher dosage is still very effective if not more?

    im curious about this coz im thinking of my next cycle and wondering whether to stack to compounds

    or whether just to run a higher dosage of test for simplicitys sake and easier abilities to combat sides

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    With certain steroids they is a synergy what works well, some compliment each other and work well when interacted together. Getting the right balance between androgenic and anabolic can give great gains but yet again like any kind of chemicals we introduce into the body, we all dont react the same, so mixing and introducing different drugs into our cycles will help us learn how we grow the best and from what compounds, its all a learning curve.

    Testosterone is dose dependant so the more you use the more it works but there is a point were sides will overtake gains and wont be worth the increased dosage. Learning how your body grows is vital for further development, creating growth spurts and using them to your advantage and using the correct dose were gains out grow sides is the key to building tissue, keeping a log of your cycles, dosages and compounds will help over time to design the correct stacks and cycles for you to grow the best possible way.

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    thank u marcus always helpful and insightful

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