Test P question - first cycle

**zakkkn** · 11-01-2009, 11:15 PM

Hi guys, I'm new to the forum.
I'm currently into my third week of test p @ 100mg eod.
Planning on doing a 16 week cycle.
At this stage I haven't had many results in regards to pump, size etc although my libido has increased.
Just wondering, I've spoken to a few people and they have suggested I increase my dosage to 150mg eod.
Any ideas or comments?
And also, could I stack stanazolol at week 7? Or would you not recommend this?
My stats are:
6", 205lbs, 13% bf. I've been training for just over 7 years and am 24 y/old.
My diets is quite strict although I do have a cheat meal on a Saturday.
Any comments would be quite helpful. Thank you in advance!

**Jarhead.00** · 11-02-2009, 07:18 AM

i can answer one of your questions...16 weeks on test prop is about twice as long as you should run it.

***D7M*** · 11-02-2009, 07:23 AM

I wouldn't add the winny. At 13% bf you won't see much of the effects of winny. Just some strength gains.

And 16 weeks is a bit long for prop. though it can be done. Pinning ED or EOD will get really old by week 10, trust me.

16 weeks is on the long side for a first cycle, too.

I don't think you need to increase the dose. If your libido has significantly increased, then the test is working. Keep that diet strict, get plenty of rest, and hit the gym hard and you'll see the results.

What's your planned pct?

**tronics** · 11-02-2009, 08:24 AM

keep it 8-10 weeks esp on first cycle

**zakkkn** · 11-02-2009, 08:40 AM

My planned pct is .5mg arimedex and 20mg of nolva Ed for 30 days 3 days after my last pin. When do you begin to gain weight on prop? And is there a point in your cycle where you begin to stop gaining weight? What kind of gains should I expect? From what i've read and been told so far, I might run prop for 10 weeks, 100mg eod for 6 weeks and 125mg for the remaining 4. Thanks for your input guys.
Also, I'm planning on doing a bulking cycle after this cycle. After blood work and then hopefully 3 months later. I would like to do sus (1ml e3d) and 500mg of deca ewk. Any suggestions or info?

***D7M*** · 11-02-2009, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by zakkkn

My planned pct is .5mg arimedex and 20mg of nolva Ed for 30 days 3 days after my last pin. When do you begin to gain weight on prop? And is there a point in your cycle where you begin to stop gaining weight? What kind of gains should I expect? From what i've read and been told so far, I might run prop for 10 weeks, 100mg eod for 6 weeks and 125mg for the remaining 4. Thanks for your input guys.
Also, I'm planning on doing a bulking cycle after this cycle. After blood work and then hopefully 3 months later. I would like to do sus (1ml e3d) and 500mg of deca ewk. Any suggestions or info?

that's a pretty weak pct, imo. I'd add some clomid to the mix as well.

here's a good read for you:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

Gains are dependent on a lot of factors: diet, training, genetics, rest, etc.

But I usually notice an increase in libido within 2 weeks of prop, and gains shortly thereafter.

I think it's a good idea to run it for 10 weeks. But you don't need to go messing with the doses.

If your gear is legit, you'll grow. But steroids aren't magic, so don't expect to blow up and look like a pro in 3 weeks on prop. They don't work that way. Stick with it...muscle comes with time.

You just started this cycle. finish it up, then come back to us with your proposed next cycle, my man.

**zakkkn** · 11-02-2009, 08:54 AM

I would love to add chlomid, problem is, it's extremely hard to get over here in ozand if you do, you're paying atleast 250US for 10 tabs.
On another note, thank you for the help. You have been a great help.
Peace.