Primobolan vs Primobolan+Test

[amostofi1999]

hi guys, what can i expect from a primobolan cycle? and what if i add testostrone at 500mg?
this is a first cylce and the reason i do primobolan is the low sides. my goal is not to get as big as possible i prefer less mass with low bodyfat.

there are 33 primobolan amps. they are real.

22yo(almost23),94kg,173.5cm,im not sure about the exact bf% it must be around 25

[Skippa]

Your low bodyfat goal should be your first priority.
Train naturally to bring that figure down before considering AAS.
Secondly, Wait a couple years before thinking about taking AAS and in that time study the diet, pct and profile section on here
Thirdly first cycles should be TEST only!

Of coarse it is up to you in the end, this may not be what you want to hear.
The best advise i can give is to educate your self enough to make the right decisions before you potentially do harm

Best

Skip

[BREW-MAN]

what mg/ml are your amps?

[tboney]

Given your age, bf%, and the fact that you have not come near to reaching your natural potential I would stongly advise you to wait on running a cycle. Go to the diet section and read. Then go to the section that talks about training and read. Then you can study up on cycling and pct, but not before you reach your natural potential.

[tboney]

Sorry didnt mean to be redundant! Skippa said perfectly.

[amostofi1999]

the primobolan is 100mg/ml amps. the new bayer ones.

thanks for the answers but i just need to know what to expect from this. and about the natural max, i dont know why people insist on that. whats wrong with using gear to reach your max? as far as i know, you cant keep the gains beyond the natural max unless you dont go off for long.
maybe i dont do this until i reduce my body fat further but when cutting i loose too much muscle along with the fat. specially when i do cardio. can i just take 20mg dbol and go crazy with cardio and diet?

[Skippa]

maybe i dont do this until i reduce my body fat further

Good answer

can i just take 20mg dbol and go crazy with cardio and diet?

No Dbol only is not a good idea.

Check you diet in the diet section and work on it. State your goals and let the boys help you

[Booz]

not enough primo at all mate..................
primo is a very weak compound and as such you really need in the region imo of 700mg upwards to get much from it.........................

[BREW-MAN]

and for a minimum of 12 weks imo ^^^^^

[Big]

what does your diet look like?

[amostofi1999]

buying extra primo is something i cant do because i wont go back to my country anytime soon and primo is expensive here.
if it is really not enough then i can do a short test p+dbol cycle. for like 5 weeks and save the primobolan. i like the idea of short cycles better but if i include stuff like primo or tren hex then i do a 10 week.

i dont have a diet plan like the ones you guys write in this forum BUT my diet is clean since i look for quality mass. these are some foods that i consume daily:
chicken breast, lean lamb, lean beef, vegetables, whey powder, eggs,tuna, fish oil, multi vitamin.
i used to add vitargo(very fast digesting carb) to my post workout drink but not anymore. just some bananas.
i aslo dont eat a lot of fruits.