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    best strength/mass combination...

    hi guys, im new on here so excuse any potentialy stupid questions. im 40 yrs old and have been lifiting weights for a long time. i am stronger than the average bear, weigh 20st but not the best weight if im honest haha. i have taken three courses in the last 12 years or so, orals twice and orals/injectables once and got fantastic results. (strangely, i have never reached the strength levels i had when i was young, dumb and natural haha!!)..its been about 2 yrs since my last course and i would like to ask, what would be the best course to add more strength, power and good muscle mass.

    i do a lot of cardio, run 4-6 miles monday-friday, and am currently employing an all over weights programme 3 times a week (deadlifts, squats, flat and incline bench, behind neck shoulder press and front press on machine and two arm exercises varied) and twice a week i 'fill in' with the smaller exercises..more of a maintenance programme than anything. i cycle one week 4-6 reps, one week 8-12 reps. i can deadlift 240kg for 5 reps, bench 140kg for 8-10 reps and squat 220kg for 5 reps or so....these numbers are way below my 'glory days' figures from days gone past haha, but hell, im getting old. in the past year or so i have been benching 180kg for 6 reps and squatting more, but i have found that my cardio/running programme and subsequent quick weight loss have impacted my strength on these exercises??

    last times i was on gear, i got good results, but as i said, im now 40yrs old and really feel i have never reached my physical potential. i dont wanna be a bodybuilder, just compliment my training , inc cardio, mma and boxing that i do, with a manageable course that will, hopefully, enable me to maintain my weight, or lose a little..(iv been as light as 18st and as heavy as 25st in the past, so a more solid 19/20st would be my aim...) whilst promoting explosive power but not to too much detriment too my cardio....im not to stuck on weight, it can go up or down, but i want to build quality, explosive muscle

    having trained so long, i have access to any of the normal steroids available, but i just dont know enough about the whys and wherfores of various combinations....the course i took last time was basic deca and test combined with oxy and i got fantastic results, but would like to go one beter this time with a little help and knowledge from you guys.... cheers, gbn

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    well test/deca is a good one
    next would prb be test/tren but i would let others chime in on that

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    Yea a test/deca/dbol cycle is best for mass and strength.
    Week1-12 test E 400-600mgs/week
    Week1-11 deca 300-500mgs/ week
    Week1-5 Dbol 25-50 mgs/ day
    ive ran this before n am about to run it again got great results gained 24 pounds and my strength went through the roof

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    Quote Originally Posted by 010058 View Post
    Yea a test/deca/dbol cycle is best for mass and strength.
    Week1-12 test E 400-600mgs/week
    Week1-11 deca 300-500mgs/ week
    Week1-5 Dbol 25-50 mgs/ day
    ive ran this before n am about to run it again got great results gained 24 pounds and my strength went through the roof
    Agreed!

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    nice

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    I would review your diet. Your running 20+ miles a week and don't have the "best weight" as you put it.....I would start there.

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    ok, thread resurrection...iv bought deca and test enanthate, also 0xy 50mg as iv had success with it before....started one oxy a day last friday and gonna run that for 4-6wks tops and gonna start jabs next week....what would you guys suggest for amounts/regularlity bearing in mind the info i originally posted..ie, age, weight/experience.....

    can also get sustanon org., would this be any good in a cycle.....

    sorry for all these ignorant questions but i am a relative newcomer to gear if not training....

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    ya you should have started the test e on the first day you took a pill buddy

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    cool....al start it tomorrow..how many mg of test and how many of deca a week....

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    you got your pct lined up?

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    how much is 20 st exactly and whats your bf?
    the above amounts and time in chev's post are good aslong as your ready for aas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnCash View Post
    how much is 20 st exactly and whats your bf?
    the above amounts and time in chev's post are good aslong as your ready for aas.
    280lbs

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    test suspension/tne in oil
    anadrol
    tren

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    test/tren, go buddy's that swear by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggbn View Post
    how many mg of test and how many of deca a week....
    400 - 600mg of Test each week

    if you just want therapeutic benefits of deca then 200mg each week (IE) joint lubrication, etc..

    a BB dosage of deca is 400 - 500mg each week.

    Good luck.

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    for strength and size i would have to say test, deca and anadrol.

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