Test E without dianabol

[manclad77]

A friend has told if i use Test E without dianabol i will loose any tone that i gain is this true?

[mikey24]

I hope you have this backwards. And you meant if you use Dballs w/out TEST you will lose most if not all of your gains. Thats why dbol is used as a kicker and the TEST is used to solidify the gains made.

[manclad77]

I Dont understand! do you mean i should be using Dballs first then Test E?

[manclad77]

Sorry if i am sounding a bit dumb i Havent started any cycle yet but have got hold of some Test E and want to get the best advice before doing anything

[mikey24]

Do you mean tone as in; muscle definiton will disappear because TEST can make you hold water (bloat). And you and your friend actually think dballs wont make you bloat. cmon do alooooot of research your way off.

[manclad77]

Yes mate thats what i Meant! Obviously your right i do need to research this better. Any ideas where i can look to find out more?

[BREW-MAN]

test e alone is far better than dbol alone, people use dbol as a kick start for there cycle as test e takes around-5 weeks to fully lick in so some thngk like this-

weeks 1-4 40mgs dbol every day

weeks 1-12 500mgs test e per week

thats your basic starter cycle,it can be used with out the dbol kick start .

DONT DO DBOL ALONE ,ITS A POOR CYCLE .

TEST AND DBOL KICKER OR JUST TEST ALONE.

[t-gunz]

you will hold water retention with test.

dbols will hold A LOT more water retention. dbols usual run for first 4 weeks to kick start your cycle cause the test will take a while to kick in

[manclad77]

Thanks for your advice its greatly appreciated can you tell me what a post cycle therapy consists of and how important it is?

[Dont wanna be old]

If this is your first cycle .

Keep it simple !

Brew-man has a good cycle suggested , I would save that for 2nd cycle . You would get to big too fast and more of a chance of injury .

200 mg test E for 12 weeks and you will know why people use AAS
400 mg test E for 12 weeks and you will be buying larger shirts
500 mg test E for 12 weeks and you will be hogging all the 45lb plates at the gym .

The d-bol has more estrogen side effects and is somewhat hard on the body .

Good luck

[big_k]

Hey manclad, Brew Man has it right, and your question was a little unclear but yes, you are fine with just using the test only without the DBol.

BUT there are more important things like PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) I Suggest you read all the stickies

PCT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

[manclad77]

Thanks to you all its nice to get sound advice for a change lol!

[dec11]

ive used dbol in 5 cycles now and to be honest this my last time, its quite a 2nd rate steroid and not worth the water and bloat imo, prop from now on for kickstart

[manclad77]

are there any signs i should look out for regarding side effects? with test enth

[the big 1]

are there any signs i should look out for regarding side effects? with test enth

Absolutely!!! the following can occur in any user; Gynomastia ( bitch tits), Acne, bloat and water retention, testicular shrinkage, aggression and roid rage and also sists and absess if not administered properly!

[Critical Mass]

are there any signs i should look out for regarding side effects? with test enth

Gyno,bloat,aggression,balding,enlarged prostate etc.

[manclad77]

when you say Administered properly do you mean Dosage?

[the big 1]

There are a number of different drugs to counteract the side effects from steroid usage.
You should learn all the possible side effects of steroids, and how to deal with these effects before taking steroids.

Most beginners start with a 12 week cycle of testosterone, and might add d-bol for the first 4 or 5 weeks. After this cycle, ule need an aggressive pct (nolva and clomid) to ensure you keep the gains you make. Also, most users have an AI to hand when cycling, ai's are used to counteract unwanted estrogenic side effects like bloat and gyno during your cycle.

[the big 1]

when you say Administered properly do you mean Dosage?

By administered properly i mean; you must ensure your injections take place in a sanatized environment to stop infection of the injection site.
Yes, you also need to learn how to inject the right amount safely and properly.

[stevey_6t9]

Op do your research mate

[Ashop]

A friend has told if i use Test E without dianabol i will loose any tone that i gain is this true?

You can run TEST cycles easily and effectively with no else other than maybe some ANTI E prevention.

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