Here's my attempt at a 1st cycle - Please tell me what you think

[Apexaddicted]

First post here, but LONG time lurker. I've done my share of searching and planning and want to put together a good first cycle. Thought I should run it by you guys first and get some educated feedback before I follow through with it.

Stats:
Age: 25 (26 in a couple weeks)
Weight: 175, up to 180 on no cal restricted diet.
Height: 6'0
Training Experience: Lifting on and off since 14, steady lifting for the past 6 years. I'm more religious about the gym than church, unfortunately.
Normal calorie intake:3000 with a 40/30/30 ratio (protein:carbs:fat). Calorie intake will be boosted to 7000cals a day with the same 40:30:30 ratio during and post cycle to help facilitate and maintain gains.


1cc Andropen - 275mg }
1cc Equipoise - 200mg } -> Let me know if my #s are FUBAR
1cc Tren - 80mg }

Disclaimer: Please tell me if this cycle is F'd up. I appreciate criticism.

Week 1: 1cc Equipoise/2x week, 1cc Andropen/2x week, 1cc Tren/3x week, 20mg Nolvadex/Day

Week 2: 1cc Equipoise/2x week, 1cc Andropen/2x week, 1cc Tren/3x week, 20mg Nolvadex/Day

Week 3: 1cc Equipoise/2x week, 1cc Andropen/2x week, 1cc Tren/3x week, 20mg Nolvadex/Day

Week 4: 1cc Equipoise/2x week, 1cc Andropen/2x week, 20mg Nolvadex/Day, 100mg Clomid/Day, 5000iu HCG/everyday for last 3 days

Week 5: 100mg Clomid/Day, 5000iu HCG/EOD for 5 days

Week 6: 50mg Clomid/Day

Week 7: 50mg Clomid/Day



Alright, that's it. I'm sure the first thing to be said is, "why the choice of gear??" Well, this is what my source has so it's what I got. Considering the options available, I think they're fine choices to work with. I've given serious consideration to going through with a cycle since 19 yrs old, but have waited til now to allow myself to further develop. In a sense, I guess you could say I've been training for this for the past 6 years. haha Aside from a dumb and naive choice when I was 19 to use prohormones, this will be my actual first attempt at a real cycle.

I don't know if it's even possible, but maybe too much PCT? back down on the nolva or clomid a bit? Well, I'll let you guys be the judge. If I need to do some more searching, please point me in the right direction. Thanks for checking my cycle out.

-Rob

[*El Diablo*]

ur 1st cycle u should stick to 1 compound to see how ur body will react, tren is more for advanced guys, Equi is a waste of oil.
Rather run Test Cyp/E at 500mg/week split into 2 shots a week.

[Nooomoto]

Welcome to the board. It's refreshing to see a first time poster who has taken the time to do research on what you're about to do to your body! Most first time posters in this section come up with some ridiculous ideas and often don't listen or choose to argue about the answers they get from us. You appear to have the right attitude and respect for gear and how powerful it is.

That being said...

Hold off on the tren. I disagree with Diablo on equi being a waste of oil, it has it's purpose but I don't think it should be in your first cycle. I'd hold on to the tren and equi for a later cycle and run the andropen by itself. A test-only cycle for your first time is a great way to get acquainted with gear. Since you're using andropen which is a blend of the different test esthers, you should run your cycle longer (like 10-12 wks), to see results. 4 weeks is too short.

For your first time, simple is better, less is more. You don't wanna flood your body with hormones and compounds. Start slow, you've got your whole life ahead of you to mess with other stuff.

As for your PCT, since you should drop the tren, you don't need to bother with HCG. Just run nolva and clomid starting the last week of your cycle and for another 2 weeks after.

[sigman roid]

Like El gringo said thats to many compounds for a first cycle a simple test cycle is all you need

[Kratos]

it looks like a peice of dog crap that got hit by a truck

[Apexaddicted]

it looks like a peice of dog crap that got hit by a truck

LOL Nice.

175lbs at 6ft is quite small to need a cycle...your diet is most likely a problem

"quite small to need a cycle" Isn't that an oxymoron? haha Everybody's different...I know how small I am and how big most people are when they start their first cycle. But size is relative, I'm sure you'll agree. 20 lbs for me may be different than 20 lbs for you. I believe it's the level of dedication and effort that matters to warrant the use of gear, not simply someone's weight. Unfortunately I can't prove that to anyone here...but I hope my word is good enough. I'm happy to have achieved 175 so far. Hopefully, I can reach 200 lbs with 30% 1RM increase across the board. That's my personal goal and if I achieve that I'll be happier than pig in shit.

Remember that skinny kid back in school? Ya, that's me. 95 lbs at 14 yrs old, unable to bench press the 45 lb BAR by itself. Seriously.... So, although it often has a finger pointed at it, I do believe in this case it is part genetics...and part used to be diet too. I've spent the past couple years learning how my body reacts to various ratios of calorie intake and learning about my metabolic rate. Now that it's slowed down, I think I can make intelligent use of a cycle without wasting gains when I come off. Staying plateaued for 2 years with various different routines (ie:high reps, low reps, power lifting, cross fit...) I think warrants at least 1 cycle by now



Preciate all the replies guys. Ya, I know most people will say a test only cycle is preferred for the 1st cycle. But like I said...my source is limited. So, I guess I'll have to do some lookin around. No big deal.
My source recommended the stack for me. He said the gains from the andropen for him were minimal when used alone, but his last cycle had an equipoise and tren stack to it and saw good gains from it...DEF not his first cycle though. But, I'll follow your advice and cut the Equipoise and Tren out for now.

So bag the previous cycle up and throw it away....
I'll stick to this then http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle1.php



Thanks for the help guys. I'll keep you posted on the gains.

-Rob

[marcus300]

Bad first cycle, take a look in the education threads and stickies at the top of the aas section, do more research on first cycle because your way off, best of luck

[Kratos]

4 weeks for andropen and EQ, what made you think that's a good idea?
and tren on a first cycle. You're starting pct while running andropen and eq and tren...where did you get that great idea?
with all these seachable threads on here, I don't know how this type of what the fvkcery can even happen and be proposed as a cycle.

[taboo-09]

hey bro id run test enth only as a first cycle for 8-12 wks to get ur foot in the door. then for a seconf cycle id use test and EQ for second..... the n try other compunds. simply use one compound to see how ur body reacts. then on the next cycle use the test and another compund if you have sides youll know exactly what caused it. and keep ur diet in check and never forget pct

[Kratos]

175lbs at 6ft is quite small to need a cycle...your diet is most likely a problem

[Nooomoto]

Good luck!