liv.52 DS

[DEE151]

i just order some of these and was curious about if anyone has use these during a cycle and how good are they really? would like some feed back on this thanks guys.

[TITANIUM]

i just order some of these and was curious about if anyone has use these during a cycle and how good are they really? would like some feed back on this thanks guys.

Liv 52 is good, I use it myself.

Best

T

[Merc.]

There are a lot of studies done on liv 52( like around 180 I think ).. I have reviewed a lot of the studies ( in the past) , and some show it is effective , and some show it is not ...

EDIT I got distracted by someone and accidentally posted the wrong study.. I edited it with the ones I meant to post..

For a quick example ... Heres one showing it does help ...


The efficacy of Liv-52 on liver cirrhotic patients: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled first approach.
Phytomedicine. 2005 Sep;12(9):619-24. Department of Pharmacology, Institute of Medicinal Plants, No. 97, Bozorgmehr St., Ghods St., Enghelab Ave., Tehran, Iran.
In the present study, the efficacy of herbal medicine Liv-52 (consisting of Mandur basma, Tamarix gallica and herbal extracts of Capparis spinosa, Cichorium intybus, Solanum nigrum, Terminalia arjuna and Achillea millefolium) on liver cirrhosis outcomes was compared with the placebo for 6 months in 36 cirrhotic patients referred to Tehran Hepatic Center. The outcome measures included child-pugh score, ascites, serum alanine aminotransferase (ALT), aspartate aminotransferase (AST), total billirubin, albumin, prothrombin time, platelet and white blood cells counts. The indices were recorded in all patients before and after 6 months of drug or placebo treatment. The results demonstrated that the patients treated with Liv-52 for 6 months had significantly better child-pugh score, decreased ascites, decreased serum ALT and AST. In placebo administered patients all the clinical parameters recorded at beginning of the study were not significantly different than after 6 months. We conclude that Liv-52 possess hepatoprotective effect in cirrhotic patients. This protective effect of Liv-52 can be attributed to the diuretic, anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidative, and immunomodulating properties of the component herbs.




And heres one that says it does not ..



Herbal medicines for liver diseases.
Dig Dis Sci. 2005 Oct;50(10):1807-12. Department of Hepatology, Postgraduate Institute of Medical Education and Research, Chandigarh, 160012, India.
Herbal medicines have been used in the treatment of liver diseases for a long time. A number of herbal preparations are available in the market. This article reviews four commonly used herbal preparations: (1) Phyllanthus, (2) Silybum marianum (milk thistle), (3) glycyrrhizin (licorice root extract), and (4) Liv 52 (mixture of herbs). Phyllanthus has a positive effect on clearance of HBV markers and there are no major adverse effects; there are no data from randomized controlled trials on clinically relevant outcomes, such as progression of chronic hepatitis to cirrhosis and/or liver cancer, and on survival. Silymarin does not reduce mortality and does not improve biochemistry and histology among patients with chronic liver disease; however, it appears to be safe and well tolerated. Stronger neominophagen C (SNMC) is a Japanese preparation that contains 0.2% glycyrrhizin, 0.1% cysteine, and 2% glyceine. SNMC does not have antiviral properties; it primarily acts as an anti-inflammatory or cytoprotective drug. It improves mortality in patients with subacute liver failure and improves liver functions in patients with subacute hepatic failure, chronic hepatitis, and cirrhosis with activity. SNMC does not reduce mortality among patients with cirrhosis with activity. SNMC may prevent the development of hepatocellular carcinoma in patients with chronic hepatitis C, however, prospective data are lacking. Liv 52, an Ayurvedic hepatoprotective agent, is not useful in the management of alcohol-induced liver disease.


And there are quite a few other medical studies that go back and forth like this.. That said.. I tend to think it does have a positive effect .. From all my research on it i tend to think it is " All in All ' - a good product ...



Merc.

[Merc.]

I was briefly checking my database and cant find anything on the DS ( double strength version).. I would like to see a few studies using that formula .. I will look when I have some more time to see if there are any valid studies done using Liv 52 ( DS)...



Merc.

[G4R]

Hehe, I feel like I have just got done with a college course after reading your posts Merc.... love it.

[Merc.]

Hehe, I feel like I have just got done with a college course after reading your posts Merc.... love it.

Sup G4R


LOL..





Merc.