For the stuborn old man

**jccnewbie** · 11-09-2009, 01:49 PM

My fater (52) has been cycling now since July. He started with just winny 50mg/day for a few months, now he is on decca and abomb (not sure of the dosages). He is convinced that the winny was causing him breathing problems. He has a real hard time sleeping now because of his shortness of breath. He also is starting to cramp all over the place, even his fingers.

I am not experienced with decca or abomb as I myself have only done test so I have no advice to offer him. I did tell him that he should take a break and that may help him. Is there anything he can do about the breathing problems and cramping? He won't stop, so I can at least try to help him out a little.

**redz** · 11-09-2009, 01:54 PM

Well he has no idea what he is doing and really shouldnt be cycling. He should see a doctor about the breathing problems. He should run pct now.

**jccnewbie** · 11-09-2009, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Well he has no idea what he is doing and really shouldnt be cycling. He should see a doctor about the breathing problems. He should run pct now.

I agree, but right now he's pissed that his gains are actually going away. He has test on the way right now.

**Mooseman33** · 11-09-2009, 02:01 PM

ur fathers nuts man.
grab control of this or it could be bad.
get him to a doc for his breathing and then have him join this site.

**jccnewbie** · 11-09-2009, 03:23 PM

Has anyone experienced breathing problems or bad cramping on cycle? If so how can you help it?

**big_k** · 11-09-2009, 05:11 PM

with symptoms like that and his age, I would NOT risk my dad by hoping for a fix/cure from a forum. Try to get him to end the cycle, and get to a doctor. If

**dangerous dan** · 11-09-2009, 05:22 PM

yea i would recomend a pro's help, see a doctor.

**Hazard** · 11-09-2009, 05:23 PM

winny for a few months (im assuming more than 2 because you said a "few" instead of a "couple") and then switches to A-Bombs!?!?!?! DUDE...... not good for his liver.

He needs to come off and run a pct and also get to a doctor! Breathing problems aren't good for someone his age.....

~Haz~

**dangerous dan** · 11-09-2009, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

winny for a few months (im assuming more than 2 because you said a "few" instead of a "couple") and then switches to A-Bombs!?!?!?! DUDE...... not good for his liver.

He needs to come off and run a pct and also get to a doctor! Breathing problems aren't good for someone his age.....
~Haz~

my concern mainly

**jccnewbie** · 11-09-2009, 05:38 PM

Thanks guys, I would agree with all of you.

**Hazard** · 11-09-2009, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by jccnewbie

Thanks guys, I would agree with all of you.

Really man..... I would be very concerned for is health. If you have to..... print this out and let him read this. IMO theres nothing wrong with moderate cycling at his age..... my own father is 47 and still runs tren ..... he cycles tho and comes off! He gets regular bloodwork from his HRT doc and it's always perfect.....

Your father needs to come off and run a PCT...... get his health checked..... and then look into HRT if he's ok - he'll be much happier. Whats the point of trying to get bigger if it puts you in a grave.....

~Haz~