Ready to cycle, need to sort out the details.

**Damienm05** · 11-09-2009, 03:03 PM

Needs
PCT and other information/advice, including dosing, for Test E. cycle.

Stats
23 year old male. 197 lbs. 12% bf.

Goals
To continue cutting, developing incredible definition and exponentially increasing lean gains.

Training
Note: I switch it up every week, but below is the bread and butter of my workouts. Always 1 day between bis/back, tris/chest for maximum recovery time. Always hit each group hard, until failure.
Sunday: Arms/1 hour low-intensity cardio.
Monday: Shoulders/1 hour low-intensity cardio.
Tuesday: Legs
Wednesday:Back/1 hour low-intensity cardio.
Thursday: Chest/1 hour low-intensity cardio.
Fri/Sat. Off. due to excessive work hours

Intended Cycle diet
8:45, Meal 1:
cal/pro/carb/fat
340/41/30/4
10 egg whites, 1/2 cup grits, multivitamin/bcaas/fish oil

11:00 AM, Meal 2:
cal/pro/carb/fat
376/43/34/13
1/2 cup steel cut oats w/ splenda, can of tuna w/ tsp. EVOO/lemon juice. 1 cup steamed spinach.

<Workout>
<PWO low intensity cardio (usually walking on full incline) - 60 minutes>

2:30 PM, Meal 3:
cal/pro/carb/fat
280/60/7/1
PWO shake w/ bcaas/fish-oil/multivatim

5:00 PM, on my way to work, Meal 4:
cal/pro/carb/fat
461/51/20/16
3 oz. Beef jerky, 1 oz. almonds, 1 cup steamed green beans

8:00 PM, at work, Meal 5:
cal/pro/carb/fat
220/44/6/1
2 scoops whey shake

10:00 PM, meal 6:
cal/pro/carb/fat
471/52/12/23
6 oz. grilled chicken breast. 1 oz. Almonds. 1 cup steamed spinach.

12:00 AM, meal 7:
cal/pro/carb/fat
220/48/6/1
2 scoop casein shake.

Total:
cal/pro/carb/fat
2356/339/115/59

**CHUCKYthentic** · 11-09-2009, 03:10 PM

1st thing im gonna tell u as will a few others is you re too young, should wait a few more years

diet needs help. u need more real food and less shakes. protein from lean meat is much more beneficial than shakes. carbs should be higher, even depending on your goal

what are your goals?

trying posting an example cycle and pct and then we can critique it

**Damienm05** · 11-09-2009, 04:42 PM

I should have been more specific. Based on my physique, I am ready. However, I am all but completely oblivious as to the dosing aspect.

**CHUCKYthentic** · 11-09-2009, 04:47 PM

well given that, u can benefit yourself greatly by sticking around here and doing some research. read a lot of the stickies and info on beginner cycles

im sure thats not exactly the answer u came here for but its really the best/healthiest one i can give. its best to be overly educated on the matter (AAS) than not knowing enough and going into them semi blindly

if u have any Qs at anytime dont hesitate to post em up

**big_k** · 11-09-2009, 04:48 PM

Read the stickies on the top, look at a test only cycle, its what any beginner should start with once they are ready.

**Mooseman33** · 11-09-2009, 04:55 PM

how tall are u

**BREW-MAN** · 11-09-2009, 05:05 PM

weeks 1-12 500mgs test e per week (250mgs every 3.5 days) useing a 23g ,1.1/4 in neddle ,either glutes or delts ,rotateing every injection.

14 days after last injection start pct

nolvadex

weeks 1- 40 mgs every day

weeks 2- 20mgs every day

weeks 3- 20mgs every day

weeks 4- 20mgs every day
.................................................. ............

clomid

weks 1- 100mgs evry day

weeks 2- 50mgs every day

weeks 3- 50mgs evry day

weeks 4- 25mgs every day

if you start to get sore /itchy nipples on cycle start useing nolvadex at 20mgs every day untill the soreness/itcyness has settled down then use 10mg right up to pct.

keep diet clean and train and rest good and you will have very nice gains indeed.

good luck

**Mooseman33** · 11-09-2009, 05:13 PM

forget glutes, why do so many people push shooting the glutes..
glutes suck man.

**biggerguns** · 11-09-2009, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by BREW-MAN

weeks 1-12 500mgs test e per week (250mgs every 3.5 days) useing a 23g ,1.1/4 in neddle ,either glutes or delts ,rotateing every injection.

14 days after last injection start pct

nolvadex

weeks 1- 40 mgs every day

weeks 2- 20mgs every day

weeks 3- 20mgs every day

weeks 4- 20mgs every day
.................................................. ............

clomid

weks 1- 100mgs evry day

weeks 2- 50mgs every day

weeks 3- 50mgs evry day

weeks 4- 25mgs every day

if you start to get sore /itchy nipples on cycle start useing nolvadex at 20mgs every day untill the soreness/itcyness has settled down then use 10mg right up to pct.

keep diet clean and train and rest good and you will have very nice gains indeed.

good luck

Seems like a long PCT. But then again thats a 12 week cycle. I've been reading alot lately that 8 week cycles are all you need.

**big_k** · 11-09-2009, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by biggerguns

Seems like a long PCT. But then again thats a 12 week cycle. I've been reading alot lately that 8 week cycles are all you need.

Test E peaks around 5 weeks, you probably wouldn't want to get off after 3 weeks, and thats a very typical pct length

**Damienm05** · 11-10-2009, 02:43 PM

Alright guys, first of all, thanks so much for the prompt replies. I would like to go with an 8 week cycle only, and would like to start at a low dose, given my age. Does that PCT look good to everyone? It's similar to everything I've read so far for a test only clycle. Would the same dosage apply to an 8-week cycle? Could I go lower or would I risk cheating myself on gains? Also, would I be better off upping my cals by adding PWO/cardio carbs? I know it's good to leave glycogen depleted after cardio but I'm thinking that while Cycling I'd really benefit from PWO oats/sweet pot.

I am 6'1" btw to one of the above poters.

**chuckt12345** · 11-10-2009, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Damienm05

Alright guys, first of all, thanks so much for the prompt replies. I would like to go with an 8 week cycle only, and would like to start at a low dose, given my age. Does that PCT look good to everyone? It's similar to everything I've read so far for a test only clycle. Would the same dosage apply to an 8-week cycle? Could I go lower or would I risk cheating myself on gains? Also, would I be better off upping my cals by adding PWO/cardio carbs? I know it's good to leave glycogen depleted after cardio but I'm thinking that while Cycling I'd really benefit from PWO oats/sweet pot.

I am 6'1" btw to one of the above poters.

2300 calories is pretty low, may wanna adjust that. your gonna get to wk 8 and be like,, fk i really wanna go a few more wks. TRUST ME. So just plan to run it 10wks,, pct should be the same either way

**BREW-MAN** · 11-10-2009, 03:18 PM

8 weeks is to short ,remeber test enanthate is a long ester and most people start seeing gains around weeks 4-5 ,if you were to use a short ester (test prop) then 8 weks would be fine but this mean injecting every day ,12 weeks is the best for long esters bud .

**Damienm05** · 11-10-2009, 09:30 PM

Ok, got it. Thanks Brew-Man. Now, if only this stuff was as easy to come upon as recreational drugs!

**PO OFFICER** · 11-10-2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by BREW-MAN

8 weeks is to short ,remeber test enanthate is a long ester and most people start seeing gains around weeks 4-5 ,if you were to use a short ester (test prop) then 8 weks would be fine but this mean injecting every day ,12 weeks is the best for long esters bud .

Same thing I was thinking.