EQ Base?

**nj_** · 01-06-2003, 09:56 PM

Anyone ever used boldenone base to make unesterfied EQ? Pain factor? Frequency of injections? A friend of mine is looking into doign this because he wants to do a short cutting cycle but doesn't want any long-acting esters in there and he has access to boldenone base. His concern is if there is anything that would make it a problem to take boldenone base and make it into a suspension in oil or water.

**big N** · 01-06-2003, 10:11 PM

etserless eq ??u mean right ?i know of some people that have tried it before ,sit tight let me looka round and see if i can come up with their resaults .

**nj_** · 01-06-2003, 10:18 PM

Yeah esterless EQ (boldenone suspension) would be what he is attempting to make. Thanks.

**stinky** · 01-07-2003, 06:35 AM

Bump^

**djdjdjddjon** · 01-07-2003, 06:37 AM

thatd be great, i was kinda wondering why there isn't a faster or actualy short chain boldenone ...

**nj_** · 01-07-2003, 06:19 PM

Bump.

**palme** · 01-07-2003, 07:15 PM

Didnt kizer talk about this?

Bump

**nj_** · 01-07-2003, 07:17 PM

kizer got his from ** I believe, I don't recall seeing it on his lists nor am I fond of his products, I'm more concerned with the feasibility of making it yourself since the raw materials are readily available to me.

**Dank1447** · 01-07-2003, 08:05 PM

i was wondering the same thing, was told something along the lines of very chemically similar to d-bol, looking for the post right now

**Dank1447** · 01-07-2003, 08:09 PM

Rickson's post....
What would be the point of esterless EQ? Basically it is Dbol without the 17AA attached. It would have a halflife of roughly 3 hours. Not a good product in my humble opinion.

here is the link-

http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...prop+esterless

**nj_** · 01-07-2003, 08:15 PM

Well, the half-life isn't of concern to my buddy because he is planning to do a cycle of tren suspension/test suspension/eq suspension so the frequent painful injections he is okay with. He wants the vascularity from the EQ but without the long-acting ester as his cycle is only intended to be 6 wks in length.

**Dank1447** · 01-07-2003, 08:24 PM

if esterless eq is basically dbol without the 17aa, then just use dbol

**nj_** · 01-07-2003, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by Dank1447
if esterless eq is basically dbol without the 17aa, then just use dbol

Chemically they are similar but the effects attained from both are pretty different, I don't see dbol giving you the freakish vascularity he is looking for nor the lean muscle gains without the bloating dbol causes.

**Dancer** · 01-07-2003, 08:44 PM

It can be made either in oil or water....come to a's board for solubity and shit there are a few posts on it there.

**bOBeRt** · 01-07-2003, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by nj_

Chemically they are similar but the effects attained from both are pretty different, I don't see dbol giving you the freakish vascularity he is looking for nor the lean muscle gains without the bloating dbol causes.

The 17aa changes the way the hormone effects the body a lot. I had a big study on it, but I seemed to have misplaced it. If I find it I'll post it up.

Good Luck,
bOB

**nj_** · 01-07-2003, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by Dancer
It can be made either in oil or water....come to a's board for solubity and shit there are a few posts on it there.

Thanks Dancer. Exactly what I was looking for.

**djdjdjddjon** · 01-07-2003, 11:39 PM

yah no doubt, just because they are similar doesn't mean their in any same the same, the difference is indeed very small, but C12O6H22 is completely different compound than C11O6H22, they will both exhibit completely different effects just because of a ONE CARBON difference, also the molecule could actually be identical empiral formula or almost structurally the same but the actually shape of the molecule has a lot to due with its binding affinity and the effects it exhibits, neither are actually compounds i was just using them as example...hope this helps

Originally posted by bOBeRt

The 17aa changes the way the hormone effects the body a lot. I had a big study on it, but I seemed to have misplaced it. If I find it I'll post it up.

Good Luck,
bOB