Question probably asked a million times...but..

**jcosley** · 11-11-2009, 03:54 PM

How long does one normally wait between cycles? Right now i'm in the middle of a TEST E cycle...about 3/4 done and I have my next one planned out already. I have Nolva/Clomid/CLEN for PCT and Letro on hand in case of gyno issues. My cycle is going to go the full 12-13 weeks. PCT for 4 weeks.

Next cycle I plan is Test Cyp.

**G4R** · 11-11-2009, 03:57 PM

Time on + PCT = Time Off

ie. 12 week cycle + 2 weeks off + 2 weeks PCT = 16 weeks, so, 16 weeks after your PCT you should be good to go again.

But, you should get blood work done before you start again just to be sure your levels are back to normal.

**jcosley** · 11-11-2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by going4ripped

Time on + PCT = Time Off

ie. 12 week cycle + 2 weeks off + 2 weeks PCT = 16 weeks, so, 16 weeks after your PCT you should be good to go again.

But, you should get blood work done before you start again just to be sure your levels are back to normal.

Ok. What is the reasoning exactly behind this long of wait. Just curious.

**Nooomoto** · 11-11-2009, 04:05 PM

Should be 16 weeks or longer.

**PO OFFICER** · 11-11-2009, 04:09 PM

time on = time off. Some people include their pct, some don't.

**chuckt12345** · 11-11-2009, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by jcosley

Ok. What is the reasoning exactly behind this long of wait. Just curious.

its just a estimate,, real time is when your hormonal levels have returned to what they were before you started cycling. Only way to really know is through blood tests,, and that being you took one before you ever started aas

**Vitruvian-Man** · 11-11-2009, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by jcosley

Next cycle I plan is Test Cyp.

... you're just going to swap the ester for a tad longer of one? lol.

you know that there is virtually no difference between Test-E and C?

**El Corvino** · 11-11-2009, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

its just a estimate,, real time is when your hormonal levels have returned to what they were before you started cycling. Only way to really know is through blood tests,, and that being you took one before you ever started aas

hahaha the most important... remember kids, no two are exactly alike. thats why its called the average range!

**jcosley** · 11-12-2009, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

... you're just going to swap the ester for a tad longer of one? lol.

you know that there is virtually no difference between Test-E and C?

I do know this, I've done my research. I just see that some people react different to both so I thought i'd try Cyp for my next one. The Cycle isnt totally complete for my next one...I'm debating on what to jump start it with...Winny, D-bol, or Anavar . The var seems like the best choice but is quite expensive. Anyone have any suggestions. Obviously it's a long ways away but I'd like to get it planned.

**Vitruvian-Man** · 11-12-2009, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by jcosley

I do know this, I've done my research. I just see that some people react different to both so I thought i'd try Cyp for my next one. The Cycle isnt totally complete for my next one...I'm debating on what to jump start it with...Winny, D-bol, or Anavar. The var seems like the best choice but is quite expensive. Anyone have any suggestions. Obviously it's a long ways away but I'd like to get it planned.

haha ok. You would be surprised to see how many people think that Test-E vs. C. are two completely different cycles

For your next cycle just keep it simple. Test + a kick-start is a great idea. It really depends what your goals are. D-bol (weeks 1 - 4) @ 50mg ED works great for strength / water retention while one waits for the test to kick in.

If you're looking for lean gains, then perhaps back-load the cycle with anavar . (weeks 10 - 16) @ 80mg ED.

^^ but as you previously stated, anavar will be costly.

**jcosley** · 11-12-2009, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

haha ok. You would be surprised to see how many people think that Test-E vs. C. are two completely different cycles

For your next cycle just keep it simple. Test + a kick-start is a great idea. It really depends what your goals are. D-bol (weeks 1 - 4) @ 50mg ED works great for strength / water retention while one waits for the test to kick in.

If you're looking for lean gains, then perhaps back-load the cycle with anavar . (weeks 10 - 16) @ 80mg ED.

^^ but as you previously stated, anavar will be costly.

Well right now I have enough Test for a 12 week cycle probably. My goal is always to get "leaner" ....lose fat and hopefully put on a little muscle in the process.