newbie stack question

[fergylax]

Ok so I'm new to using steroids I'm 24 6'1 about 170lbs. My guy is telling me to stack anavar and winstrol not sure about the mg's. And to do 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off till I get the size I want. Is this bs or is it something I should do to get decent gains.

[G4R]

Haha, not sure what "gains" he was promising you.

Anyways, you need to put on some natural size first. You could put on another 30 - 40lbs naturally with just a well planned and executed diet. Dont start any AAS until you get your diet worked out first.

Do yourself a favor and dont listen to him anymore.

[El Corvino]

I'm with ^^^^^ I wouldn't trust your guy. If your 6'1 and 170... and looking to gain... With an anavar and winnie stack sounds like he is trying to keep you around for a LONG time and make some money off you or hes just a moron. Fix your diet and gain another 20 - 30 lbs before you jump on. I was 195 at 5'9 before I started. And even I could have likely gained a little more naturally.

[fergylax]

Wish I could put on that kind of weight but I can't I worked out hard and ate right for two years and only gained 10lbs. This was when I was still playing sports. Now I'm looking for beach muscles spring break is 4 months away and I want to look good plain and simple

[El Corvino]

Ok... Post your diet. My boy eats checkers and McDonalds 9 times a day but weighs 140. Eating a lot doesn't mean eating right to put on lbs.

[G4R]

What does your diet look like in detail.... macros included.....?

[El Corvino]

And if your trying to get big in 4 months look into this type of cycle.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=407104

But as we all know... these aren't miracle drugs. Without proper training, dieting, and rest you won't get to where you want to be.

[fergylax]

I eat as much as I can mostly chicken, steak, pasta, salads and turkey sandwiches. I also drink protein shakes. I don't really have a strict diet but I try to consume over 3000 calories a day.

[G4R]

You need a strict diet. If you cant follow a strict diet, then steroids are not something you should be messing with.

[El Corvino]

^^^^^ agreed. I eat 4500 calories a day but its a very strict 6 meal diet.

[fergylax]

ok i was reading up on some diets and i do need to be eating more and get up to 4500+ a day and i need to spread out my food i eat more like 3 big meals a day with some snacks but I need to spread it out from what I have read about some diets it wont be a problem. so that takes me back to my original question is what the guy told me to do worth while? i was mostly concerned about doing the 3 weeks on 3 weeks off. do people do that? is there anything to be gained or lost by doing that?

[Kibble]

3 weeks on and 3 weeks off... repeating is a BAD idea. I am guessing that he said nothing to you about pct? So basically you will run about 4 oral cycles in 2.5 months. The idea does not seem right to me. If you are stuck on orals, then do:

4 weeks orals, 4 weeks pct, 6-8 weeks off

Then repeat. But you should look into Liver Longer, Liv52 and Synthergine if you will be doing strictly orals

[thenextcutler]

3 weeks on and 3 weeks off... repeating is a BAD idea.

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[big_k]

My bro is 5'10 and 170 and he wants to get big, but he won't EAT big. I would never let him touch AAS to push through to the 200 lbs barrier. He has a lot of learning to do with lifting/diet and it sounds like you do too!

[Duma23]

1st cycle?

[chuckt12345]

turning into a diet forum

[thenextcutler]

turning into a diet forum

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