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    Starting first PCT next week

    What am I going to expect? How should I train so that I don't lose my gains?

    My PCT will consist of Clomid/Letro

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    You will have to do a special PCT training protocol. You have to use a BOSU ball and kettlebells, they help to keep gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpmaster View Post
    You will have to do a special PCT training protocol. You have to use a BOSU ball and kettlebells, they help to keep gains.
    wtf???!!!!

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    you will lose some of those gains, no matter what you do

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    Quote Originally Posted by jccnewbie View Post
    What am I going to expect? How should I train so that I don't lose my gains?

    My PCT will consist of Clomid/Letro
    here's a good read for you:
    AAS- Tips on keeping gains for the moderate user

    what's your complete pct look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    here's a good read for you:
    AAS- Tips on keeping gains for the moderate user

    what's your complete pct look like?
    Great thread, I will study that.

    For PCT I was thinking clomid 100/100/50/50 But I'm not sure what to dose the Letro at, I wasn't planning on having it but I do now so I was going to throw that in.

    My cycle was test cyp 600mg/wk for 6 weeks. I wanted to do 12 but the rest of my gear was seized. I should have waited for all of my gear to start, but I will just have to settle for this short cycle.

    Any suggestions on the letro?

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    did you have gyno on cycle? why are you running the letro?

    If not, I'd just do the typical nolva/clomid for pct.
    clomid 100/50/50/25
    nolva 40/40/20/20

    and 600mg/wk of cyp for 6 weeks? you should've just waited till you had enough gear and ran a real cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    did you have gyno on cycle? why are you running the letro?

    If not, I'd just do the typical nolva/clomid for pct.
    clomid 100/50/50/25
    nolva 40/40/20/20

    and 600mg/wk of cyp for 6 weeks? you should've just waited till you had enough gear and ran a real cycle.
    Thanks for the PCT asdvice, no I did not have gyno but I had an incredible amount of fat gain and water retention. I hadn't planned on using the letro, I just happened to get some.

    6 weeks seems short I know, but I actually have some impressive gains (besides that fat).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jccnewbie View Post
    Thanks for the PCT asdvice, no I did not have gyno but I had an incredible amount of fat gain and water retention. I hadn't planned on using the letro, I just happened to get some.

    6 weeks seems short I know, but I actually have some impressive gains (besides that fat).
    ok I don't see the need for letro in your pct then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    ok I don't see the need for letro in your pct then.
    Thanks for the advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    did you have gyno on cycle? why are you running the letro?

    If not, I'd just do the typical nolva/clomid for pct.
    clomid 100/50/50/25
    nolva 40/40/20/20

    and 600mg/wk of cyp for 6 weeks? you should've just waited till you had enough gear and ran a real cycle.
    Uh yeah...I didnt even start making really good gains until week 4-5 ....so a 6 week cycle would be pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcosley View Post
    Uh yeah...I didnt even start making really good gains until week 4-5 ....so a 6 week cycle would be pointless.
    That was your experience, not mine. Besides, it's out of my hands I learned a valuble lesson to have ALL gear on hand before starting a cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jccnewbie View Post
    That was your experience, not mine. Besides, it's out of my hands I learned a valuble lesson to have ALL gear on hand before starting a cycle.

    sucks about cutting it short but glad that u are being positive and learning from it..
    if u dont have any gyyno going on, i would not use letro in PCT..

    look on the bright side bro, u wont have to wait as long to start ur next cycle..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    sucks about cutting it short but glad that u are being positive and learning from it..
    if u dont have any gyyno going on, i would not use letro in PCT..

    look on the bright side bro, u wont have to wait as long to start ur next cycle..


    Exactly!! I plan to start again just after new years. any second cycle advice?

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    First week is the hardest for PCT in my experience. Psychologically you lose some lbs from water weight and that has an effect as well.

    Just make sure to eat at maintenance or above and give time for ample rest because you won't recover as quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscarjones View Post
    First week is the hardest for PCT in my experience. Psychologically you lose some lbs from water weight and that has an effect as well.

    Just make sure to eat at maintenance or above and give time for ample rest because you won't recover as quickly.
    Thanks for your imput. I have my diet all lined out and I swer that I have already been losing tons of water weight already. I can't make it through the night without pissing at least once, and my last injection was Sat.

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    Solid advice here. Don't use letro for pct. Use clomid/nolva.

    That sarms looks interesting. I may be using it for pct my next cycle to help keep gains.

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    Yeah PCT gets better after the first week, so no worries, just fight through it!

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    Good news, I found a local source but I don't know if I should go ahead and start PCT and save it for next cycle or just pin and keep the cycle going.... My last injection was Sat night... Any thoughts on that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jccnewbie View Post
    Good news, I found a local source but I don't know if I should go ahead and start PCT and save it for next cycle or just pin and keep the cycle going.... My last injection was Sat night... Any thoughts on that??
    Anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jccnewbie View Post
    What am I going to expect? How should I train so that I don't lose my gains?

    My PCT will consist of Clomid/Letro
    Avoid Movies like The Lion King, you will notice tears pouring down your face and you won't be able to stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_k View Post
    Avoid Movies like The Lion King, you will notice tears pouring down your face and you won't be able to stop it.
    I am not looking forward to that.

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    if u can inject asap i say continue this cycle on man.
    the good stuff is just starting..

    and about PCT- if ur running clomid, but a big bix of tissues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    if u can inject asap i say continue this cycle on man.
    the good stuff is just starting..

    and about PCT- if ur running clomid, but a big bix of tissues...
    Thanks Moose, I really want to get the most out of this cycle. I should be able to get my test tonight.

    The sniffles only last about a week on PCT right?

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    not for me man, i cry at tv commercials, anything emotional..
    really sucks man, but its part of the game..u just have to butch up...

    get ur test and get it into u tonight bro..

    goodluck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    not for me man, i cry at tv commercials, anything emotional..
    really sucks man, but its part of the game..u just have to butch up...

    get ur test and get it into u tonight bro..

    goodluck
    lol I didn't know some had it THAT bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_k View Post
    lol I didn't know some had it THAT bad
    Is there anything you can do to avoid these emotional problems? I'm already emotional as it is (go ahead and laugh).

    Just got a phone call, my test was hand delivered and waiting for me.

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    I am two weeks into my pct and the only emotional side affects i have had is increased laughter lol... I have found myself "lmao" and "rofl" a lot more easier and frequently. I havent experienced any uncontrollable crying or anything of the such guess im just lucky.

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