Longest you've ever stayed on gear?

**Test247** · 11-12-2009, 03:25 PM

Im curious. I just came off a 34week cycle and Im dropping back to .8cc a week of testC (250mg). Was thinking of keeping 250mg of Deca a week in too for this cruising session.

Wondering whos stayed on a long time?

**oscarjones** · 11-12-2009, 04:08 PM

TRT folks stay on forever, but im curious... at what dose did you run your cycle for those 34 weeks? Cause I've heard of lots of folks cruising and blasting like 8 on @ 500mg and 2 on @ < 250mg.. etc. And of course the TRT guys are on a low dose too.

**Test247** · 11-12-2009, 04:11 PM

I stayed on about 375 to 500 test thru the cycle, varied a little. Mixed in stretches of Deca at 500-600mg, EQ at 800MG, and TrenE @ 375mg/wk....Dbol here and there pre-work out. Going back to cruise on about 200mg on Test now...

I stayed on the EQ for 12 weeks and Deca for 12 weeks with a bridge of a few weeks of 500mg test in between. Tren I ran 6 weeks with 5 weeks just on test after.

**Mooseman33** · 11-12-2009, 04:16 PM

what are ur stats man.

**Test247** · 11-12-2009, 04:18 PM

29/6'/205/~8% lifting 14 years on and off, had some injuries and set backs.
5-6 cycles before I went on blast/cruise about 14months ago. More blast than cruise, however I really wasnt getting any gains after a while. Thus going back to cruise and Im not loosing weight, just some strength.

**PC650** · 11-12-2009, 04:22 PM

what were your results after the 34 weeks?

**Test247** · 11-12-2009, 04:40 PM

Nothing that great... Started out on test/deca 500/600... Got bloated was eating not so clean got upto about 220... Moderatly strong but got some moon face and lost a lot of definition.... I dropped the deca waited a month or so and went on Tren /Winny.

The nightsweats and attitude adjustment on the tren became more than I could handle. However I was strong as hell on it.. Never been that strong since. I was too aggressive. Broke a few things around the house.... I lost a 5-7lbs got a little more cut...

Waited a bit staying on 500 test.... went on EQ at 800wk for 12 weeks. Didn't notice a lot other than it cut me up and I maintained strength. I got down to 195 but was very cut.... after that ended I went back on Deca, maintained my lean-ness and went back to about 205ish.

I always end my cycles around 205 for some reason. That's where I am now.

I do love dbol prework out for extra strength. 30 to 60mg. Got some Adrol to try now, haven't yet tho...

**Test247** · 11-12-2009, 04:42 PM

Battled down gyno 3x with Tamox and arimidex . Even when I let it get quite bad it was conquerable however it required arimidex and 100mg of tamox ED for about a month.

**Test247** · 11-12-2009, 04:44 PM

I ran 4 weeks of Dbol in there somewhere too and I was strong on it, gained another 5-7lbs but lost em soon as I came off.

I run liver support 24/7/365 and I use a lot of orals...never been an issue. I dont drink booze.

**Mooseman33** · 11-12-2009, 04:48 PM

any blood work done?

**PC650** · 11-12-2009, 04:58 PM

how long did it take you too bounce back to normal after a cycle that long? after a 4 month cycle it took me about 2 1/2 months too start getting back to normal

**Test247** · 11-12-2009, 08:36 PM

I am stayin on cruise test, no bouce back needed. No blood work. I had a buddy on 14 years straight so, no biggie.

**Kibble** · 11-12-2009, 08:45 PM

Maybe steroids aren't the answer for you if you keep losing all of your gains. One day your body may say "I've had enough"

**Test247** · 11-12-2009, 09:03 PM

I never lost all my gains. I actually retained quite well I hardly lost much at all. My losses all came from injury/hospitalization, circumstances that came up in life.

**Kibble** · 11-12-2009, 09:04 PM

Oh ok brother, sorry about the comment then

**Test247** · 11-12-2009, 09:06 PM

No worries... its funny tho cuz at 205 people think in 225. When I was 165-170 everyone would guess 195-200..

I swear I have light bones....

**peachfuzz** · 11-12-2009, 09:06 PM

18 weeks. dont really get much after 14 so dont think ill be running one that long again. all it did was make recovery harder.

**Test247** · 11-12-2009, 09:08 PM

**** recovery, Im on cruise mode. I thought my nuts were shut down after 1+ year on TRT and juice and in the middle of my huge long cycle I knocked up my girl. GO figure. My nuts were/are the size of small grapes. lol

**peachfuzz** · 11-12-2009, 09:09 PM

there are some studies that show higher levels of test can actually maintain sperm count.

**peachfuzz** · 11-12-2009, 09:10 PM

http://www.andrologyjournal.org/cgi/...tract/23/5/684

**Test247** · 11-12-2009, 09:15 PM

Yes I have heard that... However I thought it was around 1100mg/wk+... I'll read your link...

Well it certainly didnt keep my balls big?

**SilverTest** · 11-13-2009, 12:33 AM

i stayed on for 8 months , recovery was a little bit harder , but not something i cant handle.

This time i am going on for a long time , i am taking a off time for a while now then i will be in full swing again blast and cruise.

**SilverTest** · 11-13-2009, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Test247

**** recovery, Im on cruise mode. I thought my nuts were shut down after 1+ year on TRT and juice and in the middle of my huge long cycle I knocked up my girl. GO figure. My nuts were/are the size of small grapes. lol

not suprising to me , i believe test dosages over a gram actually will stimulate sperm production , low test dosages such as 200-250 per week actually make the sperm count lower over time.

**elpropiotorvic** · 11-13-2009, 04:03 AM

Id like to know the reason ^^^

**SilverTest** · 11-13-2009, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by elpropiotorvic

Id like to know the reason ^^^

ok here goes , but please note that it is my personal opinion from my various observations and experiences of other people and myself included and NOT based on actual studies.

sperm needs a high amount of intratesticular testosterone to stimulate the sterolli cells, they kind of "bask" in the ITT which is MUCH higher than the amount of testosterone in the blood.

when you take say 250 mg per week , there would not be enough test intra testicular to stimulate sterolli cells , when you go to higher dosages , the test amount present in the blood becomes so high that it actually passes through the sterolli cells and stimulate them.

**elpropiotorvic** · 11-13-2009, 04:13 AM

Hmm i wish there was a study on this

**Test247** · 11-15-2009, 01:33 PM

I was barely at 500mg a week probably more like 400mg with plenty of Deca too when I got my girl pregnant and my nuts were TINY

**Swifto** · 11-15-2009, 02:23 PM

17-18 weeks.

If your cycling over 6 weeks using testosterone preperations or using ANY amount of 19-Nors, use HCG !

250ius 2-3 times a week throughout. That way you'll avoid testicular dysfunction, which is the biggest block in recoevrying the HPTA fully.

**Swifto** · 11-15-2009, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Test247

I was barely at 500mg a week probably more like 400mg with plenty of Deca too when I got my girl pregnant and my nuts were TINY

Testicular size is a poor indication of how the testes are functioning.

On cycle, your body will still be producing endogenous LH and FSH, but in small amounts. If you use androgens for long enough, you will risk damaging your bodies ability to manufacurer/produce sperm due to lack of LH/FSH.

Another reason why HCG is so important.