?What is recommended here?

[reichertc2009]

I just bought my second cycle, goin to be:

Deca
Test E
Letro
Nolva

what would be recommended for my dosage and how long of a cycle,
Based off my first cycle which was Test Sustaton @ 500mg/w. 8 weeks, and two weeks after last pin started
Nolva @
Week 10, 40mg/ed
Week 11-17 20mg/ed
I was 177 at start of cycle and at end i was 194 and now dropping back down.didnt see much strength gains at all during cycle, just size.


I am:
26
5'9"
192 lbs
Bf: ~10, not sure though havnt got tested yet
training: 2 years solid
MONDAY- Chest/Tri: w/15-20 min interval cardio after wheights (stair steppers)
SET REPS WEIGHT
INCLINE 1 20 (OLYMPIC BAR)
(BARBELL) 2 12 135
3 10 155
4 10 185
5 8 205

INCLINE 1 12 130 (65LBS. each)
(Dumbell) 2 10 140
3 8 190

FlatBench 1 12 135
(BARBELL) 2 10 185
3 10 205

Cable
cross-overs 1 12 45 (each hand)
2 10 50
3 10 50

Scull-Crusher 1 15 50
(EZ-Bar) 2 12 60
3 12 70
4 10 80
5 10 80

2 Arm overhead 1 75 15
dumbell press 2 95 12
3 100 12
4 110 10

Machine Dips 1 180 15
2 190 12
3 200 10


T- Back/Bi (includes light "traps" workout)

SET REPS WEIGHT
PULL-UPS 1 10 (bodywheight)
2 8 (bodywheight)
3 8 (bodywheight)
4 8 (bodywheight)
5 8 (bodywheight)

Bentover 1 20 (OLYMPIC BAR)
Barbell rows 2 15 95
3 15 135
4 12 185
5 10-12 225
5 10 185

Seated 1 15 150
cABLE-ROWS 2 12 180
3 10 190
4 8 200

Bentover 1 12 85
Dumbell-row 2 10 95
3 10 100
4 8-10 110


Dumbell shrug 1 15 75
2 15 85
3 12 95
4 10-12 110

barbell Behind 1 12 135
back shrug 2 12 155
3 10 175

Standing 1 15 (OLYMPIC BAR)
Barbell curl 2 10 85
3 8 105
4 8 105
5 8 85

Sitting 1 12 25 (each hand)
Dumbell curl 2 10 30
3 10 35
4 8 35

ONE ARM
Preacher curl 1 10 25
2 8 30
3 8 30
4 8 25

Alternating 1 15 30
hammer curls 2 10 40
3 10 45
4 10 50
5 10 55
6 10 50

reverse ez-bar 1 12 45
curls 2 10 50
3 10 60


W- Legs/abs (Quads,Hams,Calves)

SET REPS WEIGHT
Squats
(Barbell) 1 15 (OLYMPIC BAR)
2 12 135
3 10 185
4 10 205
5 8-10 225
6 8 225
7 10 155

(superset 1 25 45
seated calf 2 20 70
raisers) 3 20 90
4 20 115
4 20 115


Leg Press 1 15 270
2 15 450
3 12 630
4 12 720
5 10 900
6 8 1000
7 10 630

(superset 1 20 270
standing calf 2 20 360
raisers) 3 20 450
4 20 450

Front leg 1 15 135
extantion 2 15 145
3 12 175
4 10 185

Lying rear
leg extentions 1 15 120
2 15 150
3 12 180
4 10-12 200
5 10 175

T- Sholders/Forarms (includes light "traps" workout)

SET REPS WEIGHT
Military
overhead press 1 20 (OLYMPIC BAR)
(Barbell) 2 15 90
3 12 135
4 12 155
5 10 180
6 8 200
7 10 160

Military 1 15 60(each hand)
overhead press 2 12 70
(dumbell) 3 10 75
4 10 80
5 8-10 85

Side dumbell 1 15 30
raise 2 12 35
3 12 40
4 10 45
5 10 50
6 10 45

(Superset FONT 1 10 35
Dumbell raise 2 10 40
Alternating) 3 10 45
4 10 50
5 10 50
6 10 45

(GIANTset rear 1 12 25
delt dumbell 2 12 30
raises) 3 10 35
4 10 40
5 10 35

Dumbell shrug 1 15 75
2 15 85
3 12 95
4 10-12 110

barbell Behind 1 12 135
back shrug 2 12 155
3 10 175

rear barbell 1 25 90
wrist curl 2 20 135
3 15 155
4 12 165
5 12 155

seated reverse 1 12 40
wrist curls 2 10 50
3 10 60

F- Light Bi workout, Abs (hit abs today if i missed them on leg day due to lack of energy),w/15-20 min interval cardio after wheights (stair steppers)

SET REPS WEIGHT
decline bench 1 40 (bodywheight)
sit-ups 2 30 25 (plate)
3 30 25
4 20 35
5 30 (bodywheight)

machine 1 25 80
crunches 2 25 100
3 20 120
4 15-20 135
4 15 120


S-S OFF

NOTE: After workouts is a 10-15 min cardio (stair steppers) w/1 scoop of Chain’d Out® w/16oz H2o during Cardio sessions.

Current Nutritional plan: (during weight training week, NOT weekends)

0700- small bowl cereal (miniwheats), 1 scoop 100% whey

0800- workout (~ 1.1/2 hours)

after workout- 3 scoops Torrent™ (Nutrition info below)

1100- 5 whole eggs,2 wheat toast 12 oz,2% milk

1300- protien shake, NUTRABOLICS FORMULA: ISOBOLIC™ w/12oz 2% milk (Nutrition info below)

1500- 1 Peanut butter sandwich w/4 scoops peanutbutter on Oroweat® Protein Health wheat bread

1700- 12oz steak w/brown Jasmine rice, steam veggies (broccoli)
OR
8 oz salmon filet w/brown Jasmine rice, steam veggies (broccoli)
OR
2 4oz chicken breast w/brown Jasmine rice, steam veggies (broccoli)
OR
wheat pasta dinner w/turkey or chicken breast chunks
OR
Footlong Deli sandwich on wheat w/no condiments and double meat.(subway)

1900- same meal as 1700

2100- 1 Peanut butter sandwich w/4 scoops peanutbutter on Oroweat® Protein Health wheat bread

2300- protien shake, NUTRABOLICS FORMULA: ISOBOLIC™ w/12oz 2% milk (Nutrition info below)

NOTE: All foods cooked with olive oil, eggs are ***** and everythings low fat, minimal sugars.

Average meal consumption facts:
Calories: ~ 3200g - ~ 4000g
Carbs: ~ 400g - ~ 460g
Protien: ~ 280g - ~ 350g

Current supplements:

NUTRABOLICS FORMULA: ISOBOLIC™ Protein
Torrent™ : Post-workout Anabolic Muscle Mass Activator Protien w/Waxiemaze
ALR industries. Chain’d Out™ (BCAA powder mix)(take during workouts)
Nutritox™ MALE 4-A-DAY FORMULA with DAILY DETOX BLEND™ multi-vitamin

[CHUCKYthentic]

welcome to AR

can u give us your stats 1st

age
height
weight
bf
training experience

[CHUCKYthentic]

didnt notice u edited your post...

well 1st thing that came to my attention is that you could benefit doing a little research around here. you should read up on a few topics, such as: PCT, SERMs, AIs, Gyno, effects of AAS on HPTA....just to point out a few very crucial topics

your diet could use some work. you need some more real food meals and not so many shakes. you re havin about 4 meals a day. take out a shake and add a balanced meal or 2 in there and you ll be good. id also like to see you eat your meal with eggs in replacement of your cereal, then add another type of balance meal where your meal at
1100 was

also easy on the milk, i know its GREAT i love it too. its high in fat and if u must have try to stick to skim

diet isnt horrible, just could use a little tweaking, if u post it up in the diet section u could get some detailed advice

workout schedule isnt too bad, if it works for u... id suggest tris and bis in same day. chest alone, back alone, could throw in abs or calves or forearms or cardio on those days

now finally to the cycle:

i personally would like to see u do a test e or c and an oral kickstart before u jump into deca. deca is a great muscle builder a lot of newer users DO use it. i usually dont recommend too soon. reason being it is a 19nor and has the ability to raise the prolactin levels leading to lactation o the nipples. as well as raising progesterone. its good to have a prolactin antagonist on hand to combat this

u DO NOT need the letro u purchased UNLESS u get gyno. good to have just in case but u do not need it on cycle or pct. it inhibits TOO MUCH estrogen, we need some...

for u, another reason i suggest not using deca is because of the short lengthed 1st cycle you ran and a sub par PCT

id suggest a 10-12 week cycle

test e or c @ 500mg/week
dbol @ 30-40mg/week for 4 weeks (or another oral kickstart of your choice, ie anadrol or tbol)
*could run an AI like arimidex on cycle

12-14 days after last test inject, PCT will begin
clomid week 1: 100mg/day
nolva week 1: 40mg/day

clomid week 2-4: 50mg/day
nolva week 2-4: 20mg/day

i*if u dont run AI on cycle
aromasin week 1-4: 20-25mg/day

check out some of these threads below for some great info, any Qs dont hesitate to ask

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398794

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916

[reichertc2009]

wow thnx for all the info, yea i was told by my source my test cycle was 10 weeks, but i must of got shorted cuz it came out to 8 weeks,(dang).

ill deffinantlly have to up the nutrition n the nutrition sec, thnx for that, and as for the training,
this current schedual is something new i just put together cuz i think i was starting to platue a bit, so i started wit this.

my source either cant get aromisan or somehting like that cuz i did ask for it and he said he couldnt.
as for the letro i took prohormones back n the day and got gyno(lumps behind niples) so i was told by my source that the letro would clear this up(about two weeks on).if i do take it when should i take it during my next cycle, or before i start?
same thing for getting clomid was told all i needed was nolva.

"prolactin antagonist" is there a name for what i should ask for on this to help.with deca?
thnx