My girlfriend wants to take some anavar what dose would u reccommend she is 140 lbs? Also, will it mess with her hormones at all? She is going to get off birth control to maximize affects. I was thinking 5-10mg a day. Thanks
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My girlfriend wants to take some anavar what dose would u reccommend she is 140 lbs? Also, will it mess with her hormones at all? She is going to get off birth control to maximize affects. I was thinking 5-10mg a day. Thanks
“SIS PACIS INSTRUO PRO BELLUM”
First off, why does she want to do var in the first place?
What are her goals?
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T
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She wants to gain some strength and burn a little fat
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My bible says 5-10 mg is the safe range for women.
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Anavar doesn't burn fat..... It's all diet and cardio......Originally Posted by anabolichulk
~Haz~
Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
height and age?
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5'9 140 25 yrs old
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Oh course cardio and diet is the best way but she wants a little strength and yes anavar does help burn a little fat!
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What is your girlfriends goals? Bodybuilding or fitness model look?
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How so exaclty? Do you have a study to show that? I'm just curious......
~Haz~
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me too anabolichulk
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anavar does not burn fat! It's all diet, wife did a cycle or var to build her legs for her figure comps. If she wants to lose some pounds she needs to work on her diet, strengh comes with lifting.
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People lose fat with anavar since most work harder when on cycle!
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I know studies are on old people or sick people. Still Oxandrolone reduced fat in old people without exercise.
The effects of an anabolic agent on body composition and pulmonary function in tetraplegia: a pilot study.
Halstead LS, Groah SL, Libin A, Hamm LF, Priestley L.
National Rehabilitation Hospital, Research Division, Washington, DC, USA.
Study design:Prospective repeated-measures longitudinal study.Objectives:To determine if an 8-week course of an oral anabolic steroid can positively effect body composition or pulmonary function in healthy individuals with chronic tetraplegia.Setting:United States.Methods:Oxandrolone (20 mg per day) was administered for 8 weeks to 10 men with motor complete tetraplegia. Dual X-ray absorptiometry scans, pulmonary function tests (PFTs), serum lipids and liver function tests (LFTs) were obtained at baseline, 4, 8, 12 and 20 weeks. To analyze change over time, a repeated measures General Linear Model and nonparametric tests were utilized.Results:Following treatment, total lean body mass (LBM) increased 1.9% and LBM of the arms increased 5.4%. Total body fat decreased 1.5%, and increased 3.9% in the arms and, on average, combined measures of PFTs improved 2.2%. High-density lipoprotein cholesterol decreased 31.8%, low density lipoprotein cholesterol increased 41.2%, and LFTs increased 9.7-65.6% while on therapy but all trended to baseline at 20 weeks.Conclusion:Baseline body composition was characterized by a high proportion of fat and a body mass index that underestimated chronic disease risk. Treatment with oxandrolone was associated with modest improvements in PFTs and in arm and total body LBM. Unfavorable changes in serum lipids and LFTs indicate that reported benefits of using oxandrolone in this population must be carefully weighed against potential adverse effects.Spinal Cord advance online publication, 7 July 2009; doi:10.1038/sc.2009.82.
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2004 Oct;89(10):4863-72.
Effects of androgen therapy on adipose tissue and metabolism in older men.
Schroeder ET, Zheng L, Ong MD, Martinez C, Flores C, Stewart Y, Azen C, Sattler FR.
Department of Medicine and Division of Infectious Diseases, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California 90033, USA.
We investigated the effects of oxandrolone on regional fat compartments and markers of metabolism. Thirty-two 60- to 87-yr-old men (body mass index, 28.1 +/- 3.4 kg/m(2)) were randomized to oxandrolone (20 mg/d; n = 20) or matching placebo (n = 12) treatment for 12 wk. Oxandrolone reduced total (-1.8 +/- 1.0 kg; P < 0.001), trunk (-1.2 +/- 0.6 kg; P < 0.001), and appendicular (-0.6 +/- 0.6 kg; P < 0.001) fat, as determined by dual energy x-ray absorptiometry. The changes in total and trunk fat were greater (P < 0.001) than the changes with placebo. By magnetic resonance imaging, visceral adipose tissue decreased (-20.9 +/- 12 cm(2); P < 0.001), abdominal sc adipose tissue (SAT) declined (-10.7 +/- 12.1 cm(2); P = 0.043), the ratio VAT/SAT declined from 0.57 +/- 0.23 to 0.49 +/- 0.19 (P = 0.002), and proximal and distal thigh SC fat declined [-8.3 +/- 6.7 cm(2) (P < 0.001) and -2.2 +/- 3.0 kg (P = 0.004), respectively]. Changes in proximal and distal thigh SC fat with oxandrolone were different than with placebo (P = 0.018 and P = 0.059). A marker of insulin sensitivity (quantitative insulin sensitivity check index) improved with oxandrolone by 0.0041 +/- 0.0071 (P = 0.018) at study wk 12. Changes in total fat, abdominal SAT, and proximal extremity SC fat were correlated with changes in fasting insulin from baseline to study wk 12 (r >or= 0.45; P < 0.05). Losses of total fat and SAT were greater in men with baseline testosterone of 10.4 nmol/liter or less (<or= 300 ng/dl) than in those with higher levels [-2.5 +/- 1.1 vs. -1.5 +/- 0.8 kg (P = 0.036) and -24.1 +/- 14.3 vs. -2.9 +/- 21.3 cm(2) (P = 0.03), respectively]. Twelve weeks after discontinuing oxandrolone, 83% of the reductions in total, trunk, and extremity fat by dual energy x-ray absorptiometry scanning were sustained (P < 0.02). Androgen therapy, therefore, produced significant and durable reductions in regional abdominal and peripheral adipose tissue that were associated with improvements in estimates of insulin sensitivity. However, high-density lipoprotein cholesterol decreased by -0.49 +/- 0.21 mmol/liter and directly measured low-density lipoprotein cholesterol increased by 0.57 +/- 0.67 mmol/liter and non-high-density lipoprotein cholesterol increased by 0.54 +/- 0.97 mmol/liter (P < 0.03 for each) during treatment with oxandrolone; these changes were largely reversible. Thus, therapy with an androgen that does not adversely affect lipids may be beneficial for some components of the metabolic syndrome in overweight older men with low testosterone levels.
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To burn fat, maybe the best is going on T3/Clen
Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=403234
It did on my body.
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I thought you gained body fat?
Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
Yes I did because I was not trying to get ripped but to test the ability of Oxandrolone to develop lean mass.
However, the last two weeks I reduced the daily calories and noticed a double percentage reduction of fat compared to lean mass.
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The problem with overweight older men is their testosterone is already low..... depending on age/weight/genetics it could be severely low. I firmly DO NOT believe anavar will help a healthy younger individual lose fat. If they are taking anavar..... and doing cardio..... i'm willing to bet it's the cardio that does it. If not.... then a diet change.
I'll open my eyes to anavar burning fat when someone from here takes it without working out and doesn't change their diet. If their bodyfat visibly reduces..... i'll be convinced.
~Haz~
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Thats with a caloric drop tho..... if you hadn't lowered calories..... would bodyfat have still dropped?
If you were taking var and you gained some BF while trying to test the lean mass gains then that sort of debunks the "var will cut fat" myth IMO.
~Haz~
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^^ agreed
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I found one article on Anavar, although I am not sure what they mean by hepatic ketogenesis? Maybe Anavar goes well with Keto Diets?
Oxandrolone enhances hepatic ketogenesis in adult men.
Vega GL, Clarenbach JJ, Dunn F, Grundy SM.
Center for Human Nutrition, University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas, 5323 Harry Hines Boulevard, Dallas, TX 75390, USA. [email protected]
BACKGROUND: Immediate administration of oxandrolone markedly increases hepatic lipase activity and reduces levels of plasma high-density lipoprotein.
RATIONALE FOR THE STUDY: We postulated that oxandrolone should increase hepatic lipase and that the nonesterified fatty acids generated would enhance hepatic ketogenesis during an extended fat tolerance test.
MAIN RESULTS: Eighteen men participated in the study using short-term administration of oxandrolone (10 mg/d) over a week. Subjects had evaluation of hepatic ketogenesis at baseline and after 7 days of administration of oxandrolone. Ketogenesis was assessed by measuring plasma levels of 3-hydroxybutyrate during a fat tolerance test. Oxandrolone increased fasting levels of 3-hydroxybutyrate by 70%, and increased the area under the curve during an FFT by 53% above pretreatment levels without affecting the areas under the curve for nonesterified fatty acids, glycerol, or triglycerides. Fasting 3-hydroxybutyrate levels correlated with nonesterified fatty acids and with triglycerides; however, there were no significant correlations with any other parameter.
CONCLUSIONS: This study shows that short-term administration of oxandrolone results in marked increases in hepatic ketogenesis. This finding is consistent with an increased influx of fatty acids into the liver secondary to lipoprotein lipolysis by increased hepatic lipase. However, the possibility cannot be ruled out that oxandrolone acts directly in the liver to stimulate fatty acid oxidation. Therefore, the observation of increased ketogenesis will require further studies to determine the molecular basis of the response.
Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
I disagree.
I reached almost 6000 Kcal daily while testing var and for two consecutive weeks I ate more than 4000 Kcal daily.
There is a limit for every drug and I guess with var and my organism, the limit is not to go over 1500 Kcal daily.
I mean I was eating 4000 but burning throughout the day 2500. See what I mean?
In any case, I speak with numbers on hand, numbers took by my own experience. 8 Weeks of var and almost 12 lbs of lean mass and no much fat difference.
Actually, to say it all, when I took the BMC prior the cycle I was leaner than when I started it more than two weeks after. So, I was not anymore 12,7% bf but much closer to 14% bf, like I am now.
I weight now almost 97kg and I am quicker than before (bjj) when I was less than 90kg! NO WATER, NO FAT.
So, Oxandrolone showd ME, it has burning fat capabilities.
You wanted a study on this with your specific requests, be my guest:
http://www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/pr...45-oxandrolone
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Thats the same study posted before..... reworded by Anthony Roberts
I don't believe steroids burn fat..... can they help with fatloss..... in other words..... help facilitate it..... yes. Anavar is not a fat pill..... if it worked that well for burning fat then why doesn't america start prescribing it to people who are mildly overweight?
More towards the OP tho..... unless a woman is going to be dieting her ass off and NOT relying on var for the fatloss effects...... she shouldn't be using it.
~Haz~
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no steroid burns fat by itself.
it may facilitate the bodies use of calories, protein synthesis, and the shuttling of fat, etc
which in turn can lead to lil, no or some fat loss.
it may affect your thyroid which can affect your metabolism which leads back to facilitating it
it may result in higher hormone levels (test.. estro etc) which leads back to facilitating it
but a steroid by itself is not responsible for fat loss
diet and cardio are
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When I was just on my last cycle.... Adrol/Dbol combo and Test E - I ate 4000+ cals and didn't get fat either. I put on roughly 15 solid pounds..... no fat..... and did 0 cardio. I guess anadrol, dbol, and testosterone can burn fat too? If not.... I surely would have put on some fat from eating 4000+ calories..... see what I mean?
If you are "clean bulking" you shouldn't put much fat on to begin with..... I'm sure you ate cleanly while taking the var..... All i'm saying is..... it's hard to claim it reduces fat when you are eating clean and working out to begin with..... and if you add lean mass to the equation..... your body comp will definately change.
~Haz~
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That is what I meant is that anavar can help burn fat. Obviously if you sit on your ass you won't burn as much as with cardio and a good diet. But, taking var with a workout and diet will help burn fat!! Straight up!
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Same can be said for just about any steroid compound
Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
Sorry it is not, the author might be the same but not the study.Thats the same study posted before..... reworded by Anthony Roberts
I don't believe steroids burn fat..... can they help with fatloss..... in other words..... help facilitate it..... yes. Anavar is not a fat pill..... if it worked that well for burning fat then why doesn't america start prescribing it to people who are mildly overweight?
More towards the OP tho..... unless a woman is going to be dieting her ass off and NOT relying on var for the fatloss effects...... she shouldn't be using it.
~Haz~
Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
I understand what you mean and it makes sense.
But, I have experienced on my body the ability of that drug and I do believe if I would just eat the same amount of calories every day for 2 weeks, burning the same amount of calories each day, at the end my body composition would be changed, more lbm and less fat.
"Anavar may be what we’d call a “fat-burning steroid.” Abdominal and visceral fat were both reduced in one study when subjects in the low/normal natural testosterone range used it (4). In another study, appendicular, total, and trunk fat were all reduced with a relatively small dose of 20mgs/day (8) and no exercise. In addition, weight gained with ‘var may be nearly permanent too. It might not be much, but you’ll stand a good chance of keeping most of it. In one study, subjects maintained their weight (re)gains from Anavar for at least 6 months after cessation (2)! Concomitantly, in another study, twelve weeks after discontinuing oxandrolone, 83% of the reductions in total, trunk, and extremity fat were also sustained (8)! If you’re regaining weight, Anavar will give you nearly permanent gains, and if you are trying to lose fat (and you keep your diet in check), the fat lost with Anavar basically looks to be nearly permanent."
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The study that the op posted talked about cholesterol
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