First Cycle- Done all research need advice!!

**seb_dow** · 11-16-2009, 06:42 AM

Hi everyone after hours of endless research I have decided that for my first cycle I am going to do
500mg of test-e for 10 weeks
and then start my PCT 2 weeks after last injection with Nolvadex taking it at 40mg ed for 2 weeks then reduced to 20mg ed for a following 2 weeks. Does this seem good or should I change anything?

The only thing im worried about is gyno and everything i have researched has conflicting views on what to take. I don't think I need to take anything on cycle to prevent it but would rather have something on hand just incase maybe letro or arimedex? and will i need to take anything with my pct to prevent it because i ve heard that gyno can come after cycle has finished?

I would appreciate your advice and experience

**goodlifting** · 11-16-2009, 06:49 AM

if you want advice from the big boys, you're going to have to post some stats: age, height, weight, body fat %, training experience.

my advice: im 22 and ive been researching for 3 to 4 years. you can never research too much. still, i'm not going to cycle for another year or two.

**ythrashin** · 11-16-2009, 08:23 AM

Letro is a overkill to just prevent gyno. Letro should be reserved for the reversal of gyno.

Use armidex or aromasin to control estro during your cycle.

I recommend aromasin.

**LeroyB** · 11-16-2009, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by goodlifting

if you want advice from the big boys, you're going to have to post some stats: age, height, weight, body fat %, training experience.

my advice: im 22 and ive been researching for 3 to 4 years. you can never research too much. still, i'm not going to cycle for another year or two.

Good on ya for waiting bro - I know it can't be easy but its the RIGHT thing to do. The RIGHT things in life are never easy.

**CHUCKYthentic** · 11-16-2009, 09:48 AM

we need those stats 1st OP

**AgainstTheMachine** · 11-16-2009, 10:27 AM

arimidex should get the job done. the pharmacy stuff isn't cheap.

**gunslinger2** · 11-17-2009, 07:59 AM

Depends. As long as you are somewhere over 25 and your bodyfat is under 15% it sounds like a pretty good first cycle. I would have arimedex or aromasin on hand just in case and yes both are expensive as hell.

**Hamma Head** · 11-17-2009, 07:16 PM

You need clomid to get your nutz back in action, nolva is just an anti estro in case of gyno

**ythrashin** · 11-17-2009, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma Head

You need clomid to get your nutz back in action, nolva is just an anti estro in case of gyno

Wrong!! They are both serms and both will work "to get your nutz back."

**Necrosaro** · 11-17-2009, 09:26 PM

Clomid works better at getting the nuts to work then nolva but both are used together for better results.

**PO OFFICER** · 11-17-2009, 09:38 PM

You could add dbol 30mgs for the first 5 weeks to that cycle it would help.

This is how your pct should look like.

Clomid. 100/50/50/50
Nolva. 40/20/20/20

You'll prevent gyno and get your nuts back in action.

Goodluck!

**ythrashin** · 11-17-2009, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Necrosaro

Clomid works better at getting the nuts to work then nolva but both are used together for better results.

Jesus...when will everyone realize its just basiaclly a preferance to use either one or both. They will either work for PCT...

Its been proven that both almost equally help kick start natural LH production.
Although Nolva acts as a anti estrogen blocking the receptor a bit better then clomid....

Its been debated over and over again and we can continue to debate if clomid,nolva or both should be used and whech is better.

Its a preference in the end...

The goal is recovery and its been proven that either nolva , clomid or both will work in a PCT.

The advantage of running just nolva or both is that you may not need a AI since nolva blocks estro pretty good.

Although, I would still incorporate aromasin in PCT since along with it being a AI it also helps stimulate LH. I'd highly recommend an AI in a clomid only PCT...