Mid cycle injection difficulties

**p338gts** · 11-16-2009, 10:34 AM

Hi guys been having a few problems 4 weeks in to a 10 week cycle, injecting 2ml of testEn/deca twice a week in my delts (left monday right thurs) first few weeks everything went smooth then in the last week had some problems:
1.On aspiration a few bubbles draw back into the syringe and remain there
2.Its been quite hard to push the syringe and inject - always used 1" 23g
3. When withdrawing the needle (slowly) quite a lot of oil comes back out even when ive left it in 30 secs or so after injection.

Ive had a look on the internet and have seen possibilities:
a defect in the syringe/needle
injecting too much at once in delts
Delts not dissipating oil fast enough

But if anyone can give me there opinion it would be much appreciated as i feel im wasting my gear at the min!

**AgainstTheMachine** · 11-16-2009, 10:39 AM

have you tried your glutes or thighs? you might fry your delts. i even did biceps a few times to mix it up even more.

**PistolStarta** · 11-16-2009, 10:41 AM

agreed, switch sites. 2ml is alot in there as well.

**hot stuff** · 11-16-2009, 11:03 AM

I feel the same. 2ml. is a lot for a delt injection. You are probably developing a sensitivity to it. Try glutes, and rotate between them and delts to give yourself a break. Can you tell I have had the same problems in the past?

**RANA** · 11-16-2009, 11:13 AM

It depends on the size of your delts. I inject 2ml in pec and delts. As others stated look at injecting in your glutes

**chitownhoker** · 11-16-2009, 05:57 PM

you can try stretching the skin to one side then injecting, when you take the needle out let the skin go. Its sort of a way to cover up you injection site.

**SniperDoc** · 11-16-2009, 06:05 PM

Hi guys.

Injections in the delt need to be placed in the heart of the muscle no more than 1" deep. I would sugest not trying to push more than 2 cc of any compound if you have small to medium build. If you are a large build person, like lets say, Ronnie Coleman, than by all means go for three cc's...LOL

My point being, 2 cc's twice a week per shoulder is ok. Just remeber 1" needle in the heart of the muscle. Lateral Deltoid...

Now onto the issue of it comming back out.. Probably what is happening is, you are using to long of a needle and devleping scar tissue around the medial portion of lateral deltoid heart. this will cause it to be hard to push and posibly not allowing the compound to absord into the muscle. Try laying off of the shoulders for 2 weeks than try again using the tips that i have just written about.

Good Luck....happy sticking..LOL
Respectfully
-SniperDoc
Medical Practitioner

**rcmf5525** · 11-17-2009, 01:33 AM

Can you use the anterior deltoid? That would give you 4 sites on your shoulders... I saw it as an alternate site somewhere...

**p338gts** · 11-17-2009, 03:20 AM

Cheers for the feedback guys ill try stretching the skin on next injection thursday as i have only injected in delts and are comfortable with this area but if i get same results it will have to go in the glutes, dont want to be wasting anymore of the good stuff. Thanks!

**SniperDoc** · 11-17-2009, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by rcmf5525

Can you use the anterior deltoid? That would give you 4 sites on your shoulders... I saw it as an alternate site somewhere...

Yes you can inject in the rear delt, but that is a very small muscle. 1 cc would be the max. I would suggest 2-5 cc's glutes, 1-3 cc's lateral quads,
1-2 cc's lateral delts. I do not promote the use of site injections..ie..Bicep, Tricep, Calves.

Respectfully
-SniperDoc

**rcmf5525** · 11-17-2009, 06:25 AM

Uhhhhh, anterior means front.... posterior is rear... It would be difficult to inject yourself in the posterior deltoid I think...

**gunslinger2** · 11-17-2009, 07:02 AM

I would switch out to 1.5" and do glutes. Also you may want to slow down the injections a bit. I have had oil come back out also but it was after a fast injection. Now I take about 30-45 seconds per ML and have not had a problem.

**redz** · 11-17-2009, 09:15 AM

A 25G pin may also help keep the oil in there but as stated try quads out you would be amazed how easily shots go there.

**keith royd** · 11-17-2009, 09:50 AM

hamstrings are also good..you must be sitting down though.

**dec11** · 11-17-2009, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by rcmf5525

Uhhhhh, anterior means front.... posterior is rear... It would be difficult to inject yourself in the posterior deltoid I think...

lol and he has "medical practitioner" posted up there, lets hope tht was a joke !!!!

**Mooseman33** · 11-17-2009, 10:12 AM

sounds like alot of scar tissue.
if u keep hitting the delts like that it will be bad news.

switch sites and give delts some rest.

**RuhlFreak55** · 11-17-2009, 01:29 PM

my delts always spit oil back out...i've tried to stretch the skin and stuff but it's very difficult to do with one hand

I agree though hit a different site

**G4R** · 11-17-2009, 01:40 PM

You gotta rotate sites. If you keep injecting into the same spot over and over again, you could start to get scar tissue, and you could have a build up of oil that hasnt been able to disperse yet.

Then, when you inject into that spot later on, it is hard to inject the oil because of that build up.