back in the saddle could use some support

[jeepers]

I would like some advice before I jump into this cycle. I have access
to the following compounds, 10cc/300mg per ml Test Enth and Deca
10cc/250mg per ml.

For a little history about me. I have posted on this forum a bunch of
time in the past and posted up some pictures of a test only cycle
(test Enth 8 weeks at 300mg per week). Posted on a cycle of Test Cyp
only at 500mg per week(I thought this gear was UNDERDOSED though).
And this time I'm considering running a cycle of Test Enth with Deca
for 8 weeks. I know that the Deca should be run longer than the 8
weeks but hell it's what I have. I will be running clomid for PCT
(need get a hold of some BEFORE my 8 weeker)

I was a collegiate athlete (Division II) School for baseball. I have
always been in the gym. I currently weigh in at 187 lbs at 5 ft 11"
tall and probably have about 13 to 15 % BF. I feel good at this
weight but want that edge again for an upcoming baseball season.
Forgot to add that I am 39 years old.

Any advise for diet? Here is what my "typical" day looks like for food.

7am - 5 egg whites, some cheese on a tortilla

9am - whey protein drink (300cal / about 40g of Pro)

11am - almonds (about 30 or so ) with about ½ cup of low fat cottage cheese

12 noon - GYM time (been mixing it up with interval cardio and weights)

1:15- whey protein again (I know use real food But ... time)

1:30 - chicken breast / almonds

3:30 - raw veggies / cottage cheese with some yogurt

5:30 - reasonable dinner with the family... steak.. chicken whatever

7:30 - tin of tuna with whey protein

NOW I do cheat a bit... I have a weakness for Mexican food ... and the
weekends are a bit harder to control food wise.

Any comments or thoughts before I get on the "bus" again ?

[chuckt12345]

id work on that PCT

if you have some patience, get enough of the compounds and do it right
worst case scenario and you do it anyways,, run the sust at 250 for 10wks and teh deca at 300 for 9

[Mooseman33]

I would like some advice before I jump into this cycle. I have access
to the following compounds, 10cc/300mg per ml Test Enth and Deca
10cc/250mg per ml.

For a little history about me. I have posted on this forum a bunch of
time in the past and posted up some pictures of a test only cycle
(test Enth 8 weeks at 300mg per week). Posted on a cycle of Test Cyp
only at 500mg per week(I thought this gear was UNDERDOSED though).
And this time I'm considering running a cycle of Test Enth with Deca
for 8 weeks. I know that the Deca should be run longer than the 8
weeks but hell it's what I have. I will be running clomid for PCT
(need get a hold of some BEFORE my 8 weeker)

I was a collegiate athlete (Division II) School for baseball. I have
always been in the gym. I currently weigh in at 187 lbs at 5 ft 11"
tall and probably have about 13 to 15 % BF. I feel good at this
weight but want that edge again for an upcoming baseball season.
Forgot to add that I am 39 years old.

Any advise for diet? Here is what my "typical" day looks like for food.

7am - 5 egg whites, some cheese on a tortilla

9am - whey protein drink (300cal / about 40g of Pro)

11am - almonds (about 30 or so ) with about ½ cup of low fat cottage cheese

12 noon - GYM time (been mixing it up with interval cardio and weights)

1:15- whey protein again (I know use real food But ... time)

1:30 - chicken breast / almonds

3:30 - raw veggies / cottage cheese with some yogurt

5:30 - reasonable dinner with the family... steak.. chicken whatever

7:30 - tin of tuna with whey protein

NOW I do cheat a bit... I have a weakness for Mexican food ... and the
weekends are a bit harder to control food wise.

Any comments or thoughts before I get on the "bus" again ?

you are not a kid anymore man, if ur going to do it, do it right.
u need more gear, bottomline.
get ur PCT tuned up.

[CHUCKYthentic]

yup pct needs work and most of all your diet. you need real food meals and not protein shakes. more protein, carbs, fibrous veggies and good fats, from real food though

[Vitruvian-Man]

you are not a kid anymore man, if ur going to do it, do it right.
u need more gear, bottomline.
get ur PCT tuned up.

x2

Test-E + Deca for 8 weeks will not be worth it.

Save up an extra hundred bucks and buy another bottle of test + deca.

I really only recommend running deca for 12 - 14 weeks, simply because it takes SO long to kick in.

[ythrashin]

A clomid only PCT is fine... Its actually better to run a clomid only PCT is you run Deca since Nolva increases Deca affinity to attach to the progestin receptor.

I would run aromasin with the clomid during PCT.

[jeepers]

Thanks for the advise

Any concerns with deca and the nuts?

[ythrashin]

Test will shut down your nuts along with the Deca.Deca along with test will just make your HPTA shut down a bit faster....

Run some HCG during your cycle to prevent total shutdown of your testes. Stop HCG 1 week before starting PCT.

[big_k]

6am - 5 egg whites, 3 eggs, Oats

10am - Protein Source (Chicken, Turkey, Red Meat) 6-8oz, tbsp olive oil (or another healthy oil), Brown Rice or Sweet Potato

11am - 2 scoops whey protein + A Fruit or some simple carb

12 noon - GYM time (been mixing it up with interval cardio and weights)

1:15- whey protein + dextrose(dex is not necessary)

1:30 - chicken breast / almonds

3:30 - raw veggies(a good amount, broccoli, spinach, asparagus, green beans, etc) / (200-300grams) cottage cheese / All Natural PB (you can throw in some whey with the cottage cheese and mix the PB for something different...I like the taste)

5:30 - reasonable dinner with the family... steak.. chicken whatever keep it reasonable!

7:30 - tin of tuna with Healthy Oil /(Olive , Macedonia Nut, etc)

NOW I do cheat a bit... I have a weakness for Mexican food ... and the
weekends are a bit harder to control food wise. Try to keep your cheat to one cheat meal a week. Make it a reward for following your diet! Works for me, and gives me something to look forward to. Just a suggestion!

Added my recommendations, everyone might not agree, but thats the best I could do. Toss in some Fiber supp if you're not getting enough fiber, (I like to shoot for 25-30)

[jeepers]

Ill take into consideration the diet advise.

[jeepers]

Picture of me from today to show what I'm working with. No pump. Cardio only

[jeepers]

the gear is in....... grabbing from my source on weds next week. gonna see if I can talk um out of another 10cc's of Test bringing the total compound list to 20cc test / 10 cc deca

Not sure why this stuff makes me feel happy.

thoughts on my 39 year old base ? if you look at my name and search you can see that I've been leaner and bigger.... Thinking my natty levels are dropping a bit... The ONLY place I gain fat is in the stomach and love fawkin handles

[frignugs]

Not really sure what your goals are, you just stated you want an "edge" for the up coming season. But I'd say you need to add a lot more carbs to the diet. Put some simples in with your post and complex in with your meal following your PWO nutrition. Your schedule of eating is from 7 to 7, so that's basically 12 hours you are not taking in anything. You need to have some sort of nutrition at night as well.

I get pretty pressed for time too man, I usually pack a bunch of oats for quick easy carbs. Liquid egg whites are a great substitute for whey as well and are great in shakes. Just a few ideas for ya..

You have a solid base. 600mg of test and 250mg of deca is a decent cycle, although you won't benefit much off the deca.

[jeepers]

Not sure as to why the deca wouldn't be beneficial.

[jeepers]

Not sure as to why the deca wouldn't be beneficial.

I don't understand why the deca would not be beneficial. ?

[ythrashin]

Deca at that dosage wont give you many sides like bloat, muscle cramps during cardio...but will make your joints feel damn good. You wont have to worry about deca dick or other prolactin sides at that dosage unless you are super sensitive.... Its a good idea to run something that will protect and increase the strength of your conective tissues like deca on every cycle.

You may even see some increased gains from it...

I run deca in my HRT regime at 150mg per week and almost every cycle...

[jeepers]

That's great news. I have joint issues with my knees an d throwing shoulder and elbow. Some relief might be good