Cortsol and cortisol blocking supplements!!!!

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

Hi

Is it cortisol that stops AAS gains being permanent?

What other substances that stop the gains being permanent?

Are magnolia bark extract and phosphatadylserine (Cytodyne) good cortisol blockers?

Are there any good cortisol blocking supplements out there ie a supplement that contains both the above?

What other supplements block cortisol?

What would you recommend for cortisol control?

[proironaust]

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[Merc.]

Hi

Is it cortisol that stops AAS gains being permanent?

What other substances that stop the gains being permanent?

Are magnolia bark extract and phosphatadylserine (Cytodyne) good cortisol blockers?

Are there any good cortisol blocking supplements out there ie a supplement that contains both the above?

What other supplements block cortisol?

What would you recommend for cortisol control?

I think you are referring to gains slowing down while on a cycle ?? Nothing makes gains permanent ( you have to eat and train proper to maintain muscle mass)..

Yes cortisol is a factor .. You see what shuts down growth ( while on a cycle ) is a build up of reaction factors such as cortisol , glycogen and shbg that your body pumps out to bring you back into homeostasis ..

Phosphatidyl serine is very-very effective in lowering cortisol ( i believe it is like 15 % stronger than magnolia bark ... so you probably wouldnt want to use both )..





Merc.

[TexSavant]

Phosphatidyl serine is very-very effective in lowering cortisol ( i believe it is like 15 % stronger than magnolia bark ... so you probably wouldnt want to use both )..

I agree completly with this Merc, it is well documented and I've experienced it myself. The scientific literature has identified it as having a specific affect on post-excercise serum cortisol levels, thus it will be most effective when take immediately before or after your workout.


Mass quantities of Vitamin A. I tried it myself and I'm convinced it made a small difference. I was cutting and wanted to keep my strength. Despite being on a calorie-restricted diet and great deal of excercise, I lost no muscle mass or strength. I am skeptical, however, of its ability to substantially affect muscle growth on bulking cycles. It certainly is no substitute for good gear. That said, Large quantities of Vitamin A do indeed reduce cortisol levels. In fact, it is being researched as a treatment for Cushing's syndrome. (Cushing's patients have extremely high cortisol )

The abstract from one such study can be found here:http://www.nature.com/nature/journal.../228762a0.html

There is much more literature out there but I've read most of it and I'm sure you are just as capable of googling as am I.

Good Luck!

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What does bump for info mean?

Ask for info?

[elpropiotorvic]

bump sends the the thread to the top of the page, but nice find on the a vitamin Tex, and merc always there

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I think you are referring to gains slowing down while on a cycle ?? Nothing makes gains permanent ( you have to eat and train proper to maintain muscle mass)..

Yes cortisol is a factor .. You see what shuts down growth ( while on a cycle ) is a build up of reaction factors such as cortisol , glycogen and shbg that your body pumps out to bring you back into homeostasis ..

Phosphatidyl serine is very-very effective in lowering cortisol ( i believe it is like 15 % stronger than magnolia bark ... so you probably wouldnt want to use both )..





Merc.

I think you are 100% right!

You can get supplements like nettle extract that binds to SHBG!

Am I right?

How do I keep gains will I am on holiday?

Will an EMS unit help?

I know diet and intense training help!

[dec11]

how many trolls you goin to start on here, its getting really fookn boring

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I agree completly with this Merc, it is well documented and I've experienced it myself. The scientific literature has identified it as having a specific affect on post-excercise serum cortisol levels, thus it will be most effective when take immediately before or after your workout.


Mass quantities of Vitamin A. I tried it myself and I'm convinced it made a small difference. I was cutting and wanted to keep my strength. Despite being on a calorie-restricted diet and great deal of excercise, I lost no muscle mass or strength. I am skeptical, however, of its ability to substantially affect muscle growth on bulking cycles. It certainly is no substitute for good gear. That said, Large quantities of Vitamin A do indeed reduce cortisol levels. In fact, it is being researched as a treatment for Cushing's syndrome. (Cushing's patients have extremely high cortisol )

The abstract from one such study can be found here:http://www.nature.com/nature/journal.../228762a0.html

There is much more literature out there but I've read most of it and I'm sure you are just as capable of googling as am I.

Good Luck!

I never know that about Viamin A!

I will google it again!

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how many trolls you goin to start on here, its getting really fookn boring

There are real threads not trolls!

I am not a troll either!

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bump sends the the thread to the top of the page, but nice find on the a vitamin Tex, and merc always there

Thanx for the info bout bump!

i was wanderin wat it means!

[dec11]

jesus, are you writing a book or summit then? try searching for stuff

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jesus, are you writing a book or summit then? try searching for stuff

nope i am not writing one!

just wandering bout cortisol!