1st cycle was teste/dbol what should 2nd be?

**xnotoriousx** · 11-19-2009, 08:47 PM

Title says it...

First one was 500mg test e and 40mg dbol first 6 weeks...

Gains were good, 202 to 218 then after water dropped off and I dropped cals some I got down to 209 much leaner then I was at 202, i'm sure they could have been better but that's always the case. Now looking into what my next one should be.. Any suggestions?

Stats are 6'3 209 10-11%

**xnotoriousx** · 11-19-2009, 09:09 PM

here is the link to my log if you want to see my first cycle progress

notorious's first cycle

I hear test and tren is the best cycle but also see people say not to run tren on 2nd cycle so I need someone to steer me in the right direction...

**darkcrayz** · 11-20-2009, 01:28 AM

im curious also as why not to run tren .

**Vitruvian-Man** · 11-20-2009, 02:10 AM

Prop/NPP.

hands down. Injecting ED or EOD. (if you aren't a *****.)

If you are... then:

test-e/deca
or
test-e/anadrol

**peachfuzz** · 11-20-2009, 02:57 AM

test/deca /dbol

tren is not advised as a second cycle because it is one of the harshest in terms of sides. its recommended you have some experience with other milder aas as well as a respect for the sides they possibly pose before utilizing a compound like tren.

**xnotoriousx** · 11-21-2009, 11:37 AM

Test/deca /dbol doesn't sound to bad... What about winstrol , is it any count?

What makes prop so much better then enan?

**big_k** · 11-21-2009, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by xnotoriousx

What makes prop so much better then enan?

Stabler blood levels, less bloat, can come off quicker if bad sides, you get to stick needles in yourself more often, possibility of more injection pain. Thats about all I can come up with.

**xnotoriousx** · 11-21-2009, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by big_k

Stabler blood levels, less bloat, can come off quicker if bad sides, you get to stick needles in yourself more often, possibility of more injection pain. Thats about all I can come up with.

Well that sounds ALOT better lol

Can someone post a standard test/deca /dbol cycle with dosages?

**Critical Mass** · 11-21-2009, 11:53 AM

Deca /npp is a great compound.

Here is what I am doing next(5th cycle).

500 test e
500 deca d
50-100 drol(kickstart)

Cant wait!

**peachfuzz** · 11-21-2009, 12:26 PM

^looks good. if using dbol instead od adrol id stick to 30-50mg

**KimboHalfSlice** · 11-21-2009, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by xnotoriousx

Can someone post a standard test/deca/dbol cycle with dosages?

Here's what I'm doing for my next cycle in a few months time:

Dianabol --- Week 1-4 --- 30mg every day
Deca --- Week 1-10 --- 250mg every 3rd day
Test E --- Week 1-12 --- 250mg every 3rd day
hCG --- Week 4-12 --- 250iu every 2nd day (to keep my balls alive)
Aromasin --- Week 2-12 --- 10mg every day (to keep water retention down)

After my last shot of Test E, I'm gonna wait 10 days and then do:

Clomiphene 100/50/50/50
Tamoxifen 40/20/20/20

**Researcher** · 11-21-2009, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Almond

Here's what I'm doing for my next cycle in a few months time:

Dianabol --- Week 1-4 --- 30mg every day
Deca --- Week 1-10 --- 250mg every 3rd day
Test E --- Week 1-12 --- 250mg every 3rd day
hCG --- Week 4-12 --- 250iu every 2nd day (to keep my balls alive)
Aromasin --- Week 2-12 --- 10mg every day (to keep water retention down)

After my last shot of Test E, I'm gonna wait 10 days and then do:

Clomiphene 100/50/50/50
Tamoxifen 40/20/20/20

Hopefully Marcus will be along shortly...

**Hamma Head** · 11-21-2009, 02:03 PM

I personally love test, deca , dbol . You might need to up the dosage for your 2nd cycle to maybe 600, 300, and 30 dbol/ed.

**xnotoriousx** · 11-22-2009, 08:08 AM

thanks fellas, looks like i'll be going with test/deca /and a kick start with either drol,dbol or var which of the three are better? I liked the hell out of dbol but wouldn't mind trying something different

***D7M*** · 11-22-2009, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by Researcher

Hopefully Marcus will be along shortly...

Originally Posted by xnotoriousx

thanks fellas, looks like i'll be going with test/deca/and a kick start with either drol,dbol or var which of the three are better? I liked the hell out of dbol but wouldn't mind trying something different

var? why?

go with dbol or drol. If you already used dbol and want to try drol, go for it.

**xnotoriousx** · 11-22-2009, 10:38 AM

I've seen so many people post var cycles and such I thought it was supposed to be really good... Looks like i'll be trying drol out... Is it pretty much like dbol ?

**gunslinger2** · 11-22-2009, 11:30 AM

I'm still on my first cycle and it looks a lot like yours. I'm on 30mg dbol for the first 4 weeks and 500mg test for 10 weeks.

My next cycle Will most likely be a summer cutter of test/winny and ECA/Clen Then I plan on a bulking cycle in the fall of Test/EQ/Dbol/Proviron at 600/600/40/50 for 14 weeks on the test, 12 on the EQ and 6 on the dbol. I will run the proviron all the way.

Maybe the second one would be good for you?