Best permanent gains under anavar?

**Exilus** · 11-20-2009, 10:01 AM

With or without testosterone ? 70mg/ED for 6 weeks sounds like a good cycle? also is a PCT needed on anavar considering it doesn't shutdown hpta?

**tboney** · 11-20-2009, 10:05 AM

I would use some test in your cycle to keep you libido in check. Anavar will shut you down!! You will need a pct.

**elpropiotorvic** · 11-20-2009, 10:09 AM

check out the log of a member BJJ i think his conclusion was that 60 mg is the best dose

**chuckt12345** · 11-20-2009, 10:11 AM

stats?

test/var seems to be a good cycle,, at least what ive seen

**Exilus** · 11-20-2009, 10:12 AM

my libido is naturally off-line.

What kind of PCT under 6 weeks of anavar ?

And if i choose to do testo, i should make it a 8 weeks cycle at least, no?

**chuckt12345** · 11-20-2009, 10:14 AM

offline?

stats?

**tboney** · 11-20-2009, 10:14 AM

Your libido is good now because you are not shut down...However the anavar will shut you down and thgen your libido will suffer! Trust me! We are not talking about a whopping dose of test. You could even run it as low as 100mgs twice a week.

**tboney** · 11-20-2009, 10:15 AM

I think offline means high....?

**dec11** · 11-20-2009, 10:18 AM

id of thought it meant not there

**Exilus** · 11-20-2009, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by declan11

id of thought it meant not there

word.

**tboney** · 11-20-2009, 10:53 AM

What?? Dude! Spit it out! Is your libido good or bad????

**chuckt12345** · 11-20-2009, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by tboney

What?? Dude! Spit it out! Is your libido good or bad????

lol i was gonna say the same thing, ,then i realized hes prb very young

**tboney** · 11-20-2009, 01:09 PM

Yea I figured the same thing when I read his response, "word"

**nilrac** · 11-20-2009, 01:23 PM

he anavar will shut you down and thgen your libido will suffer!

The profile on this drug claims it is quite mild on your HPTA. To claim it "shuts you down" would mean your natural test production stops surely? According to BJJ's detailed log, this is not the case at all. Albeit he did also run Proviron through some of the cycle I believe... need to recheck that thread.

BJJ, how was your libido? If you don't mind me asking! lol

**nilrac** · 11-20-2009, 01:32 PM

To be fair, BJJ clearly listed sides in a final report and did list loss of libido for certain periods. And experienced some shutdown according to bloodwork.

**tboney** · 11-20-2009, 01:33 PM

Not about to argue symantics... By "shut you down" I mean supress your natural test production to the point it can affect your libido. I dont need to check another thread, I have personal exp. Anavar will supress your hpta.

**HeavyHitter** · 11-20-2009, 02:10 PM

Anavar does not shut you down. I dont have the scientific reasoning but it wont shut you down, especially if taken with trib or avina sativa. Look it up!! Ive heard it can decrease your libido slightly but dont forget everyone is different...

test/ani cycle is my favorite by far! (tprop/anavar/clen )-> wow...

**tboney** · 11-20-2009, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Anavar does not shut you down. I dont have the scientific reasoning but it wont shut you down, especially if taken with trib or avina sativa. Look it up!! Ive heard it can decrease your libido slightly but dont forget everyone is different...

test/ani cycle is my favorite by far! (tprop/anavar/clen)-> wow...

Anavar is fairly mild on your hpta but it will supress your natural test production! Its just not true to say otherwise.

**tboney** · 11-20-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Anavar does not shut you down. I dont have the scientific reasoning but it wont shut you down, especially if taken with trib or avina sativa. Look it up!! Ive heard it can decrease your libido slightly but dont forget everyone is different...

test/ani cycle is my favorite by far! (tprop/anavar/clen)-> wow...

BTW..tribulus will do nothing for hpta restoration. It may help with libido but thats it!

**HeavyHitter** · 11-20-2009, 02:28 PM

wasnt he worried about libido? I wont argue with you as i am not qualified anymore (i used to know everything there was about the compound) but from personal experience and pers exp of many many others, the main side you get from var is constipation. lol

get a docs opinion... either way, i love test/var cycles!! haha

**tboney** · 11-20-2009, 02:37 PM

I understand bro. I agree that anavar is very mild on you hpta but it is still suppressive and because of that it can adversely affect your libido. You are also right in saying that everyone is different. However, I think that it is important to highlight the fact that anavar is slightly suppressive. This way he can make an informed decision.

I hope I didnt sound confrontational. I am certainly no expert.

**nilrac** · 11-21-2009, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by tboney

I understand bro. I agree that anavar is very mild on you hpta but it is still suppressive and because of that it can adversely affect your libido. You are also right in saying that everyone is different. However, I think that it is important to highlight the fact that anavar is slightly suppressive. This way he can make an informed decision.

I hope I didnt sound confrontational. I am certainly no expert.

With all due respect, "slightly suppressive" and "Anavar will shut you down!" are two completely different statements, not "semantics".

And yes you did.

**kifenehma3ak** · 11-21-2009, 06:23 AM

i dont get it i keep reading: anavar does not shut u down. then i read it shuts u down, then i read the opposite. pls elaborate, if there is a certain dosage to make not so suppressive what would it be.

**kaigab** · 11-21-2009, 07:26 AM

oh my god, why people don't simply read threads??

read this:
ANAVAR Cycle (for those interested)

There you can see the result of Anavar only cycle on one user:
- 60 mg ED
- it shut down testosterone (even if LH and FSH didn't drop to zero so not completely) so prolly some libido problem for some people
- it wrecked lipid profile
- it affected liver but not that much

So...it will suppress HPTA (how much depends on dose...) and so you need PCT.

**dec11** · 11-21-2009, 08:26 AM

afta nearly a year ive quickly realised that on here one guy will say black and the other white, best try 4 yourself and see how it goes and keep something to hand to up libido

**Western Man** · 11-21-2009, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Exilus

With or without testosterone? 70mg/ED for 6 weeks sounds like a good cycle? also is a PCT needed on anavar considering it doesn't shutdown hpta?

At 70mgs/day you should plan on your HPTA being very suppressed. Yes, PCT with clomid or clomid/nolva will be needed.

**big_k** · 11-21-2009, 11:35 AM

Is it possible to just weigh out anavar powder, add to water, and dose it that way?

Is the taste bearable?

**tboney** · 11-23-2009, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by nilrac

With all due respect, "slightly suppressive" and "Anavar will shut you down!" are two completely different statements, not "semantics".

And yes you did.

Whats your point??? Did you not understand what I said?? I clarified what I meant about shut down! Furthermore, I wasnt speaking to you when I said "I hope I didnt sound confrontational" I was speaking to the op.

**tboney** · 11-23-2009, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by kaigab

oh my god, why people don't simply read threads??

read this:
ANAVAR Cycle (for those interested)

There you can see the result of Anavar only cycle on one user:
- 60 mg ED
- it shut down testosterone (even if LH and FSH didn't drop to zero so not completely) so prolly some libido problem for some people
- it wrecked lipid profile
- it affected liver but not that much

So...it will suppress HPTA (how much depends on dose...) and so you need PCT.

I agree.

**BJJ** · 11-25-2009, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by nilrac

The profile on this drug claims it is quite mild on your HPTA. To claim it "shuts you down" would mean your natural test production stops surely? According to BJJ's detailed log, this is not the case at all. Albeit he did also run Proviron through some of the cycle I believe... need to recheck that thread.

BJJ, how was your libido? If you don't mind me asking! lol

Surely not, I also spoke about that during my cycle.
Well, I always spoke about "Loss of Libido (only on request)", meaning that from day 14 I experienced a new way of being. I mean I was not feeling the need of sex anymore but if my wife wanted to or if decided to watch a porno movie, I had no problem to perform normally.
By adding the Mesterolone, I had a sex will rebound which lasted a few days, then it adjusted.

**BJJ** · 11-25-2009, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Exilus

With or without testosterone? 70mg/ED for 6 weeks sounds like a good cycle? also is a PCT needed on anavar considering it doesn't shutdown hpta?

To run a var cycle alone or with test is a personal choice, I had my reasons.
In any case, var CAN be run alone, in my experience.

If it is the first time you use var, 60 mg ed will be more than enough I believe. Sorry, stats?

A PCT is needed of course because either you decie to add proviron or not, LH and FSH will reduce their values (in my case they were always in the normal ranges anyway) but your test ones (Test TTL, Test Free and SHBG) will experience a nosedive decline.
So, a mild PCT is the best way to act, IMO.

Furthemore, I am currently on my PCT routine, so if you want keep an eye for your own consideration:

ANAVAR Cycle (for those interested)
After 1 Week PCT
GSH (Glutathione) Intramuscular Injection