First Cycle: Never worked out lol

**irishdude** · 11-20-2009, 05:19 PM

Alright all, im 23 years old

Height: 6,1
Weight: 70kgs 152lbs

10 week cycle,
1-4 Dianabol 50mg/day
1-10 Testosterone Ethenate 500 mg/w

pct
11 Nolva 40mg/day
12-14 Nolva 20mg/day

Work Out
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Tuesday – Chest
Warm up – 1 set of Dumbbell Flat Bench Press
4 sets of Dumbbell Flat Bench Press, 10, 8, 6, 4 reps
3 sets of Incline Dumbbell Press, 10, 8, 6 reps
3 sets of Decline Dumbbell Press, 10, 8, 6 reps
3 sets of Machine Press, 10, 8, 6 reps

Wednesday – Back
Warm up – 1 set of Deadlifts
4 sets of Deadlifts, 10, 8, 6, 4 reps
3 sets of Pull ups, 10, 8, 6 reps
4 sets of Lat Pull Downs, 10, 8, 6, 4 reps
3 sets of Seated Cable Rows, 10, 8, 6 reps
3 sets of Lateral Raises, 10, 8, 6 reps

Thursday – Shoulders, Traps and Abs
Warm up – 1 set of Dumbbell Press
3 sets of Dumbbell Press, 10, 8, 6, reps
3 sets of Clean and Press, 10, 8, 6 reps
3 sets of Military Press, 10, 8, 6 reps
3 sets of Arnold Press, 10, 8, 6 reps
2 sets of Front Dumbbell Raises, 8, 6 reps
3 sets of Upright Rows, 10, 8, 6 reps
3 sets of Dumbbell Shrugs, 10, 8, 6 reps
3 sets of Machine Crunches, 10, 8, 6 reps
3 sets of Crunches, 10, 8, 6 reps

Friday – Rest Day

Saturday – Biceps, Triceps, Forearms
Warm Up – 1 set of Dumbbell Curls
4 sets of Dumbbell Curls, 10, 8, 6, 4 reps
3 sets of Barbell Curls, 10, 8, 6 reps
3 sets of Incline Dumbbell Curls, 10, 8, 6 reps
Warm Up – 1 set of Triceps Cable Pressdowns
4 sets of Triceps Cable Pressdowns, 10, 8, 6, 4 reps
3 sets of Skullcrushers, 10, 8, 6 reps
3 sets of Dips
4 sets of Dumbbell One-Arm Wrist Curls, 12, 10, 8, 6 reps
4 sets of Behind-The-Back Wrist Curls, 12, 10, 8, 6 reps

Sunday – Legs
Warm Up – 1 set of Squats
5 sets of Squats, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4 reps
4 sets of Leg Press, 10, 8, 6, 4reps
4 sets of Leg Extensions, 10, 8, 6, 4 reps
4 sets of Stiff Leg Deadlifts, 10, 8, 6 reps
4 sets of Leg Curls, 10, 8, 6, 4 reps
5 sets of Seated Calf Raises, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4 reps
5 sets of Standing Calf Raises, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4 reps

Monday – Rest Day

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Start on Monday, 50hours from now

**big_k** · 11-20-2009, 05:21 PM

Never worked out as in...your previous cycles haven't worked out?

**irishdude** · 11-20-2009, 05:22 PM

Never worked out as, ive never been to the gym lol

**irishdude** · 11-20-2009, 05:23 PM

well ive been twice for an hour or two

**big_k** · 11-20-2009, 05:24 PM

I hope you're kidding, why the gear then?

har har the jakes on me

**tripmachine** · 11-20-2009, 05:27 PM

I'm pretty sure you are going to get many people telling you not to cycle yet then.... you don't weigh all that much being 6'1" tall so you could easily gain some weight (quite a bit i'd imagine) naturally then utilize a cycle down the road to REALLY help you out... Plus you need to build a foundation before you begin a cycle, if you don't you will see why if you go ahead with this cycle. I actually cycled without a foundation and wish I had waited.

**irishdude** · 11-20-2009, 05:29 PM

nah im not kidding, Several reasons

-forget 4-5kg in a month.
-on roids ill def go to the gym and eat correctly.
-when i go into my pct and natural levels are restored ill prob be close to my natural levels and less likely to lose most of my weight.
-dont think this cycle has ever been tested before on my type of body
-wanna have done the dbol before christmas holidays where ill go back to ireland.

**big_k** · 11-20-2009, 05:31 PM

alright, well sorry to hear you lost 30 lbs in under a week

Cycle

"6ft 2
180lbs
23 years old
10%bf"

**EZ E** · 11-20-2009, 05:31 PM

If you have never worked out with weights your muscle supporting structure (tendons/ligaments) are not very strong. Steroids only work on muscle tissue so you are putting yourself at serious risk of tearing your tendons. Having your bicep separate from your arm isn't going to be fun. Put the steroids on hold and train naturally, you will grow a lot without them right now.

**CRACKER** · 11-20-2009, 05:32 PM

that is the most unintelligent statement i have ever heard bro roinds dont "make you go to the gym" or "eat clean" im stopping there you will soom learn the same lesson i did thats starting three things youve never done before man all at once best of luck bro

**irishdude** · 11-20-2009, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by tripmachine

I'm pretty sure you are going to get many people telling you not to cycle yet then.... you don't weigh all that much being 6'1" tall so you could easily gain some weight (quite a bit i'd imagine) naturally then utilize a cycle down the road to REALLY help you out... Plus you need to build a foundation before you begin a cycle, if you don't you will see why if you go ahead with this cycle. I actually cycled without a foundation and wish I had waited.

Alright mate, u where in same boat as me. I paid £160 for the roids, $250? today so i have to do it.

yea, im sure i cud abit of weight on too, but sure ill just use roids aswell. sure its all the same, apart from sides and money loss. + benifits of roids.

**big_k** · 11-20-2009, 05:33 PM

irishdude
New Member Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 19

Gym Twice a Day
currently i hit the gym about 6pm for around 1 hour. at 100%

if i was to split this to 7am and 7pm. at 150%

Was thinking i might be able to get more work out per day, what u guys think?

**irishdude** · 11-20-2009, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by EZ E

If you have never worked out with weights your muscle supporting structure (tendons/ligaments) are not very strong. Steroids only work on muscle tissue so you are putting yourself at serious risk of tearing your tendons. Having your bicep separate from your arm isn't going to be fun. Put the steroids on hold and train naturally, you will grow a lot without them right now.

Good advice mate, thanks. Ive already looked into it. i can bench 65kgs now so ill not go over 85/90 on this cycle. all reps will be slow, as expected.

**irishdude** · 11-20-2009, 05:36 PM

big_k, yea was just testing the water. im a skinny guy with an ego.

**tripmachine** · 11-20-2009, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by irishdude

Alright mate, u where in same boat as me. I paid £160 for the roids, $250? today so i have to do it.

yea, im sure i cud abit of weight on too, but sure ill just use roids aswell. sure its all the same, apart from sides and money loss. + benifits of roids.

yeah and i'm telling you it's a mistake... lol I'm not saying because I did it you should. I'm telling you now that I made that mistake I can say it was a bad decision to cycle without having worked out before... I actually looked funny to be honest with you. Building a base doesn't just come from a cycle of steroids , it comes from time spent working on your base which will probably take you longer than 12 weeks to establish anyway even with gear.

**irishdude** · 11-20-2009, 05:40 PM

aye sure, ill do it anyway. my only concern is long term sperm count

**big_k** · 11-20-2009, 05:41 PM

how many days have you been eating this diet?

**tripmachine** · 11-20-2009, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by irishdude

aye sure, ill do it anyway. my only concern is long term sperm count

ok have fun!!

**irishdude** · 11-20-2009, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by big_k

how many days have you been eating this diet?

start tomorrow.

**Big** · 11-20-2009, 05:48 PM

Well I would love to tell you exactly what I think of you and your plan, but we have a no flame rule, so...good luck and let us know how it goes.

**irishdude** · 11-20-2009, 05:49 PM

ill stick a traclker post up in the members section

**tripmachine** · 11-20-2009, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by irishdude

start tomorrow.

lol why can't you start this diet before tomorrow?? doesn't show too much dedication already.... =/

**GREENMACHINE** · 11-20-2009, 07:44 PM

Hey bro take it from one Irishman to another you are not ready for this it will only end in tears. Hell you could put on 14lbs between now and christmas just by getting 2 shakes in a day with full fat milk and a large can of tuna. If you haven#t trained before the first few pounds will pile onto your frame in no time. What you are proposing is on par what your man did in Supersize. All the bad and none of the good.

Originally Posted by irishdude

Alright mate, u where in same boat as me. I paid £160 for the roids, $250? today so i have to do it.

yea, im sure i cud abit of weight on too, but sure ill just use roids aswell. sure its all the same, apart from sides and money loss. + benifits of roids.

**Someguy123** · 11-21-2009, 09:41 AM

people are usually so quick to call troll around here. even though a lot of these guys are just uneducated guys, asking questions. but this is quite clearly a TROLL!! he is bating you guys and everything. why doesnt someone just ban him??

**dec11** · 11-21-2009, 09:46 AM

id like to suport a fellow irishman but wat ur doin is crazy pal

**LeroyB** · 11-21-2009, 01:58 PM

Such a bad idea. I mean if what you are saying is true (I REALLY have my doubt) and you do eat / gym / juice correctly you will at least destroy your tendons, that is if your doing it CORRECTLY, if you do either if the 3 incorrectly the bad results will multiply. There is plenty of information on this forum and a lot of wisdom, if you choose to ignore it consider yourself warned.

**irishdude** · 11-21-2009, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by LeroyB

Such a bad idea. I mean if what you are saying is true (I REALLY have my doubt) and you do eat / gym / juice correctly you will at least destroy your tendons, that is if your doing it CORRECTLY, if you do either if the 3 incorrectly the bad results will multiply. There is plenty of information on this forum and a lot of wisdom, if you choose to ignore it consider yourself warned.

Yea ur dead right its my main concern after long term sperm counts, im hoping ill be ok though. Even in daily life i expect that i cud rip a tendon being stronger.

Tbh my tendons arnt the worst either, i did alot of rowing when i was younger for a few years. I have also done alot of swiming. but it was 4/5 years ago.

I think i should be alright though.

Got a flatmate to take some photos earlier, So ill post them tomorrow in the members section.

NS · 11-21-2009, 07:18 PM

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesaaas... ................

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NS · 11-21-2009, 07:21 PM

but seriously irish dude, step away from the steroids you fvcking idiot!

**sfour_tay** · 11-21-2009, 08:03 PM

this has got to be a joke. it has to be. anyone this stupid is usually in a mental hospital to prevent further self harm.

**ranging1** · 11-21-2009, 08:14 PM

LMFAO AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

i love reading these posts, just tells me how many hopeless people their are out their with shitty physiques and even after steroids they still have a physique a natural person could have acheieved

LMFAO what a joke, best luck mate

**CRACKER** · 11-22-2009, 04:00 AM

hey everybody im sailing acrost the ocean ive never sailed before but i got a boat a bunch of food and a compass and ive done alot of reading how hard can it be boats float by theselves??? Oh and my main concern is sharks

**stevey_6t9** · 11-22-2009, 06:13 AM

dude dw bout diet. your special

**baseline_9** · 11-22-2009, 06:15 AM

Troll, or just stupid, cant decide

**big_k** · 11-22-2009, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by CRACKER

hey everybody im sailing acrost the ocean ive never sailed before but i got a boat a bunch of food and a compass and ive done alot of reading how hard can it be boats float by theselves??? Oh and my main concern is sharks

Why just sail across the ocean bro, you should get a rocket on the back of your row boat and just let er' rip. Sure you might turn yourself into a torpedo and crash and burn, but you MIGHT get across the ocean faster.

**audis4** · 11-22-2009, 10:26 AM

6'1 @ 152# and you want to cycle....serious bro?

& sweet hell talk about overtraining....with your approach, after your cycle, you will end up back at 152# wondering where all your muscle went.

**irishdude** · 11-22-2009, 05:08 PM

Start cycle on Tuesday, cant wait. Ill stick photos up in members section.

**PistolStarta** · 11-22-2009, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by irishdude

Start cycle on Tuesday, cant wait. Ill stick photos up in members section.

please do, everyone loves you obviously.

**james21** · 11-22-2009, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by EZ E

If you have never worked out with weights your muscle supporting structure (tendons/ligaments) are not very strong. Steroids only work on muscle tissue so you are putting yourself at serious risk of tearing your tendons. Having your bicep separate from your arm isn't going to be fun. Put the steroids on hold and train naturally, you will grow a lot without them right now.

yeah youll **** your tendons and ligs alll up and if they are ****ed up .... youll be outta the gym a while. Hope you reconsider.

**gunslinger2** · 11-22-2009, 07:51 PM

From what I have been reading on here this seems pretty typical. On another thread people are giving cycle advice to some 22 year old who is trying to gain 5 pounds!