Tren A/ Test E

[Meshy]

Just a quick question.... Is it ok to load Tren A and Test E into the same syringe?

[Ernst]

Yes.

[Meshy]

Thanks

[RANA]

Yes, are you starting your test E 3-4 weeks before using Tren?

[Meshy]

Yes, are you starting your test E 3-4 weeks before using Tren?

Yep..

50mg Dbol weeks 1-4
500mg Test E weeks 1-12
400mg Tren A weeks 5-14

PCT
Clomid 100/50/50/50 weeks 15-18
Nolva 40/20/20/20 weeks 15-18
HCG (still little unsure when to start and in what dosing??)

[RANA]

what are your stats? How many cycles will this be? Why not use test prop?
I would run like this:
1-12 wks test E
4-11 or 12 wks tren A
start pct 14 days after your last shot of Test

[Vitruvian-Man]

what are your stats? How many cycles will this be? Why not use test prop?
I would run like this:
1-12 wks test E
4-11 or 12 wks tren A
start pct 14 days after your last shot of Test

Why though, there's nothing wrong with his protocol...?

Yep..

50mg Dbol weeks 1-4
500mg Test E weeks 1-12
400mg Tren A weeks 5-14

PCT
Clomid 100/50/50/50 weeks 15-18
Nolva 40/20/20/20 weeks 15-18
HCG (still little unsure when to start and in what dosing??)

I like the cycle, personally I would add test-prop (weeks 12 - 14) @ 75mg each day = 525mg EW. (just to absolutely ensure no fina-dick occurs..)

HCG weeks 1 - 14 @ 250iu x 2 per week

Peace.

[JinNtonic]

If your going to do Tren A, then might as well go with Test Prop IMO.

[RANA]

Why though, there's nothing wrong with his protocol...?

A couple of reasons.
If your test is a long ester and the tren is a short ester you want to make sure that your test has kicked in before starting tren.
Next, I'm not sure if this his first time with tren but running it 8 weeks is good for your first time but also by stopping AT LEAST a week after his last shot of test it will have to flush it out of your system and have test about an other week in your body before you start PCT. Also if he feels he is getting great results from Tren and wants to add 1 (total of 9 weeks of tren) more week he would be able to.

It's also more of being accurate on the start of PCT, becuase if he is running tren on week 14 (which ends a day before his PCT and it should be at least 3 days)and by the time he starts his PCT he will still have Tren in his system.

[darkcrayz]

A couple of reasons.
If your test is a long ester and the tren is a short ester you want to make sure that your test has kicked in before starting tren.
Next, I'm not sure if this his first time with tren but running it 8 weeks is good for your first time but also by stopping AT LEAST a week after his last shot of test it will have to flush it out of your system and have test about an other week in your body before you start PCT. Also if he feels he is getting great results from Tren and wants to add 1 (total of 9 weeks of tren) more week he would be able to.

It's also more of being accurate on the start of PCT, becuase if he is running tren on week 14 (which ends a day before his PCT and it should be at least 3 days)and by the time he starts his PCT he will still have Tren in his system.

question. so if he was running test prop then he could start the tren in week 1 also since the test will be kicking in at the same time?

based on your proposed cycle why not run dbol the first 3-4 weeks to kick start like is recommended with the newbie dbol/test e cycle?

just curious. trying to learn.

[RANA]

question. so if he was running test prop then he could start the tren in week 1 also since the test will be kicking in at the same time? Yes you can

based on your proposed cycle why not run dbol the first 3-4 weeks to kick start like is recommended with the newbie dbol/test e cycle? You can but really not really needed, once you start Tren you will see a big difference

just curious. trying to learn.

In bold above

[Meshy]

Why though, there's nothing wrong with his protocol...?



I like the cycle, personally I would add test-prop (weeks 12 - 14) @ 75mg each day = 525mg EW. (just to absolutely ensure no fina-dick occurs..)

HCG weeks 1 - 14 @ 250iu x 2 per week

Peace.

Thanks for the info, just what i've been looking for. Will have to start this thursday with the HCG as should have the bacteriostatic water and some sterile vials delivered by then... Think i was told to start HCG in last two weeks by Marcus last time I asked, from what i understood it was to kick start naturally test production at the end of cycle or am i wrong?

what are your stats? How many cycles will this be? Why not use test prop?
I would run like this:
1-12 wks test E
4-11 or 12 wks tren A
start pct 14 days after your last shot of Test

Stats
Age: 29
Experience 10 years weight training
5'8"
172 lbs
3500 calories daily
First cycle but used creatine and prohormones before

Started out with the cycle just going to be Test E and Dbol only (loving the results so far), but when I went to get the HCG was offered tren and after reading up on it here, i really wanted to add it to my cycle.... I know, i know i shouldn't use tren on my first cycle but way i see it is if the sides are to bad it only takes 3 days to clear my system as it's tren acetate. Did my first 100mg shot yesterday and will have second tomorrow. I hear what your saying about the test p for next cycle will be a definate consideration. Now considering just doing the tren for 9 weeks rather then 10, so it doesn't interfer with my PCT.

Thanks for all the advice

[RANA]

Stats
Age: 29
Experience 10 years weight training
5'8"
172 lbs
3500 calories daily
First cycle but used creatine and prohormones before

Started out with the cycle just going to be Test E and Dbol only (loving the results so far), but when I went to get the HCG was offered tren and after reading up on it here, i really wanted to add it to my cycle.... I know, i know i shouldn't use tren on my first cycle but way i see it is if the sides are to bad it only takes 3 days to clear my system as it's tren acetate. Did my first 100mg shot yesterday and will have second tomorrow. I hear what your saying about the test p for next cycle will be a definate consideration. Now considering just doing the tren for 9 weeks rather then 10, so it doesn't interfer with my PCT.

Thanks for all the advice

I guess you know your doing this all wrong. What is your bf%?
So if you develop sides how do you know if it's from test or tren?

[Meshy]

I guess you know your doing this all wrong. What is your bf%?
So if you develop sides how do you know if it's from test or tren?

BF% 12%

Experiencesd some mild sides from the test, slight acne on chest and back, slight change in temperament and slight mood swings/ being emotional(no gyno or ball shrinkage). From what I've read up on tren the sides are more severe, night sweats, increase in agression, limp dick, fVcks with your head, gyno etc... Five weeks in on the test with no real sides so if i develope more severe side effects i can pretty much guarantee it's from the tren.

Worst case i can't deal with the sides and i have to discontinue use and start my PCT. Best case scenario i continue to make leaps and bounds and increase muscle mass and strength.

Kinda off topic but i'm a very strong minded person, i managed to over come crack cocaine addiction at the age of 19 and trust me the side effects from that are severe. The point i'm trying to make is i'm very strong willed and realise the risks involved, thank you for your concern but i'm really just after advice on how best to do this cycle. Thanks for your input, it's much appreciated