Tren E, EQ,T-bol...

**SteelerNation** · 11-22-2009, 09:40 AM

So I am here to ask what you think of a Tren E, EQ,T-bol (turanabol) cycle? What I should run and how long. I am 30years old 6'0 205lbs about 10% bf.

I am thinking
Week 1. 400mg EQ/Tren weekly 40mg /daily Tbol
Week 2. 400mg EQ/Tren weekly 40mg /daily Tbol
Week 3. 600mg EQ/Tren weekly 60mg /daily Tbol
Week 4. 600mg EQ/Tren weekly 60mg /daily Tbol
Week 5. 600mg EQ/Tren weekly 40mg /daily Tbol
Week 6. 600mg EQ/Tren weekly 40mg /daily Tbol
Week 7. 400mg EQ/Tren weekly
Week 8. 400mg EQ/Tren weekly

I also have Clomid and Nolvadex and T3. Any tips here to would be appreciated

Edit: this would be my 3rd cycle to date.

***El Diablo*** · 11-22-2009, 09:43 AM

My Bad, didnt read, thought it was Test E..... I need to go to bed

**Big** · 11-22-2009, 09:44 AM

Horrible cycle, simply awful. Why no test?

**sigman roid** · 11-22-2009, 09:49 AM

As Big said thats terrible you've got no test in there and your running tren ....thats crazy

**SteelerNation** · 11-22-2009, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Big

Horrible cycle, simply awful. Why no test?

I don't want the water to be honest. So please explain why this is so bad? thanks for the info. Please recommend

**Big** · 11-22-2009, 09:59 AM

You can use an ai to deal with bloat and water retention, as well as a low sodium diet and drinking plenty of water.
Most men don't like operating with no testosterone present. Look at the symptoms of elderly men before they go on trt, they experience lack of sex drive, lethargy, anxiety, etc. When we run suppressive compounds, and tren will suppress you from the very first shot, we should also run test to avoid those sides.

**SteelerNation** · 11-22-2009, 10:07 AM

You can use an ai to deal with bloat and water retention?

What is an ai? Also what king of test is good to run with this at what doesages? thanks

**Big** · 11-22-2009, 10:12 AM

An ai is an aromatase inhibitor, such as arimidex , aromasin , and letro. I prefer arimidex if used on cycle, and I like it at .25mg/eod.
Also I wouldn't run EQ at less that 600mg/week and less than 14 weeks (personally I don't like EQ at all).
You didn't mention what ester tren either, so it's hard to pick a test to match what you have.
What were your previous cycles and pct's?

**big_k** · 11-22-2009, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Big

An ai is an aromatase inhibitor, such as arimidex , aromasin , and letro. I prefer arimidex if used on cycle, and I like it at .25mg/eod.
Also I wouldn't run EQ at less that 600mg/week and less than 14 weeks (personally I don't like EQ at all).
You didn't mention what ester tren either, so it's hard to pick a test to match what you have.
What were your previous cycles and pct's?

I believe its Tren E...in the title. Carry on

**Big** · 11-22-2009, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by big_k

I believe its Tren E...in the title. Carry on

Ahhh, good catch. I'm surfing on my phone, power is off here while they work on the lines. That just makes me like the cycle even less lol, short cycle with long esters.

**audis4** · 11-22-2009, 10:22 AM

OP what are your goals? No test huh? Run a longer ester like testE if your running trenE with it and follow BIG's advice

**SteelerNation** · 11-22-2009, 10:32 AM

Yes it is Tren Ethenate.

My first cycle was
Dbol , Deca , and Test Ethenate. It has been a few years I think i ran the d-bol at 40mg for the first 2weeks then bumping it up to 60 for weeks 3-4 then back down to 40mg/daily for weeks 5 and 6. Deca and the Test Ethenate I ran 500mg of deca weeks 1 and 2, Ethenate and 500mg also. Then both up to 750mg weeks 3,4,5,6. Then down to 500mg week 7, then 250mg week 8.

My second was a Tbol, Sust tbol at 40mg daily weeks 1 and 2 sust at 500mg, 60mg of tbol for 2 more weeks sust bumped to 750mg for 2 weeks.then last two weeks at 40mg, and 500mg sust,

Last week of both cycles I started clomid and took 150mg daily for 2 weeks the down to 50mg daily for 2 weeks. Had nolvadex on stand by.

**SteelerNation** · 11-22-2009, 10:34 AM

Big what about sust with it and at what doesages?
Also what should i use for my PCT? How much?

**Big** · 11-22-2009, 11:22 AM

for a first run with tren , you should use tren a. I would drop the EQ, you could use sust if you wanted.
sust 500mg/week 1-12
tren a 350mg/week 1-8
split shots ed or eod.

**SteelerNation** · 11-22-2009, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Big

for a first run with tren , you should use tren a. I would drop the EQ, you could use sust if you wanted.
sust 500mg/week 1-12
tren a 350mg/week 1-8
split shots ed or eod.

What is good for my PCT? what should i run?

I have read about letro but when do you take it during that cycle and for how long and what dose? Also should I still use and when to start nolvadex and clomid?

**james21** · 11-22-2009, 09:13 PM

Personally, the way tbol acts for me .... better than test. I think a tbol at 80mg and tren E would be a great cycle FOR ME!

**james21** · 11-22-2009, 09:14 PM

besides that you only need to protect against one kind of gyno then guessing which is causing it. Throw some dostinex in it and that would be a great cycle...... if it acts the same way on you as me.

**james21** · 11-22-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by SteelerNation

So I am here to ask what you think of a Tren E, EQ,T-bol (turanabol) cycle? What I should run and how long. I am 30years old 6'0 205lbs about 10% bf.

I am thinking
Week 1. 400mg EQ/Tren weekly 40mg /daily Tbol
Week 2. 400mg EQ/Tren weekly 40mg /daily Tbol
Week 3. 600mg EQ/Tren weekly 60mg /daily Tbol
Week 4. 600mg EQ/Tren weekly 60mg /daily Tbol
Week 5. 600mg EQ/Tren weekly 40mg /daily Tbol
Week 6. 600mg EQ/Tren weekly 40mg /daily Tbol
Week 7. 400mg EQ/Tren weekly
Week 8. 400mg EQ/Tren weekly

I also have Clomid and Nolvadex and T3. Any tips here to would be appreciated

Edit: this would be my 3rd cycle to date.

Oh and never pyramid tbol dumb.. and like big said tren A for your first tren run. Sorry i should have read everything first before replying OOPS!