Deca Shutdown Questions.....

**Rabid Pit Bull** · 11-23-2009, 05:53 AM

First, stats:

Age: 25
Height: 5'9
Weight: 197 lbs
BF%:not sure but prob,14%
Traing Time: 3 years straight, 3 years off and on before that, for a total of 6 years.

One cycle under my belt, test/dbol last summer. Went well, PCT wasn't too bad, I wasn't shut down too long, sex drive came back about 2 weeks into PCT, strenght starting going back up 3-4 weeks into PCT. Had a few rough days here and there in the beginning when test levels were lowest, but nothing I couldn't deal with.

Which brings me to my question. Exactly how bad is a shutdown from Deca ? (In my future case a test/deca cycle) I did a search and have been reading for awhile because I want to add Deca to my second cycle beginning next April/May. From what I have heard, it shuts you down hard. For those of you who hjave done Deca, how long did it take you to get your natural test levels up to normal after the cycle? How much mass/strength loss was there? How bad were mood swings/depression?

I know that no one likes to be depressed, but that is the single biggest issue I have with deca, or tren for the matter, both being 19-nors. I'd rather not be very depressed for 4-8 weeks.

Anyway, just looking for personal experiences and opinions, thanks guys.

**Sfla80** · 11-23-2009, 07:15 AM

ok well im just might be an exception to this matter. But even with a first cycle of test/deca . I was never shutdown. But i never got bloodwork either. But my libdo was up the entire time even through pct. Nothing ever shrank. Depression only came in first week or two of pct. Obvisiously though deca does almost a complete shutdown, not sure why i didnt feel it much. Thats why im worried about my next cycle.

Just make sure you stop the deca 2 weeks before you stop the test. And make sure your pct has clomid and nolva in it.

So i dont think this helped you with your question but i was jsut trying to say that it affects everyone differently thats all

**bigrobbo** · 11-23-2009, 07:44 AM

Just make sure you keep the test/deca ratio at 2-1 and you should be fine, ie 500mg test to 250 deca

**Big** · 11-23-2009, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by bigrobbo

Just make sure you keep the test/deca ratio at 2-1 and you should be fine, ie 500mg test to 250 deca

Why?

**Noles12** · 11-23-2009, 07:58 AM

^^^agreed. Please explain

**RANA** · 11-23-2009, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Big

Why?

Yes why? I've never heard that

**rookie builder** · 11-23-2009, 08:47 AM

Why does it have to be 2:1??

**Big** · 11-23-2009, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by rookie builder

Why does it have to be 2:1??

It doesn't, the deca will completely suppress natural test production, but it will not (can not) suppress the test that is injected.

**Chev** · 11-23-2009, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by bigrobbo

Just make sure you keep the test/deca ratio at 2-1 and you should be fine, ie 500mg test to 250 deca

Im running 400deca/400test C per week and everything is fine. No need for that 2 to 1. Im in my 8th week..... the only problem is im wearing my wife out!!

I have no depression, if fact im making such good gains it keeps me happy!!! .....i think the mirror is tired of looking at me.

This is my first run with deca also. love it.

**pedrolatino** · 11-23-2009, 02:43 PM

I am on my two final weeks of an 8 week cycle of test plus deca and YES I stopped deca last week...I want to have 2 weeks of test only to keep my levels of testosterone still high...

The question is: when should I start the PCT?

And I only have Proviron , because a doctor told me it would be enough...so...

Is it ok to do only Proviron or do I really need the Nolvadex as well?

Tx

**RANA** · 11-23-2009, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by pedrolatino

I am on my two final weeks of an 8 week cycle of test plus deca and YES I stopped deca last week...I want to have 2 weeks of test only to keep my levels of testosterone still high...

The question is: when should I start the PCT?

And I only have Proviron , because a doctor told me it would be enough...so...

Is it ok to do only Proviron or do I really need the Nolvadex as well?

Tx

You sholuld never start a cycle without everything in hand, having said that your Dr. needs to read up on PCT, you need both Nolva and Clomid. Are you using Test E or prop?
Start your own thread

**Hamma Head** · 11-23-2009, 05:27 PM

I think the answer to the question about running a 2:1 ratio of test to deca is to avoid deca dick. This is what I was taught when I first started to juice, but times have changed and so has the methods of juicing. I ran test, deca, dbol , on my first cycle and had no issues with deca dick or being shut down for too long, I did my pct correctly, gained 20 lbs with minimal sides.

**Noles12** · 11-23-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma Head

I think the answer to the question about running a 2:1 ratio of test to deca is to avoid deca dick. This is what I was taught when I first started to juice, but times have changed and so has the methods of juicing. I ran test, deca, dbol, on my first cycle and had no issues with deca dick or being shut down for too long, I did my pct correctly, gained 20 lbs with minimal sides.

As already stated by Big, it doesnt matte if you run the test and deca 2:1 or 1:1 because deca cannot shut down the artificial test you are injecting. It shuts down your natural production but you are already replacing that by using test in general