first sus/dbol cycle questions asked

[drgnball]

i decided sus/dbol for my first cycle @ 500mg wk1-12/ 40mg wk1-4. Proper PCT after of course. Im from Australia and as you know it's very hard to source juice. Im very lucky to even get hold of these so limited to just them. I searched and plan to inject EOD to best keep levels stable as I am very concerned about acne. So if I start my first shot on monday, that means x4 shots @125mg that week then the following week is x3 shots @ 166mg?
When is it best to inject? AM,PM, pre/post? Also how do i best take dbol? How many mgs at a time and at what time of day?
Has anyone had good results from using vb5 powder for their acne? I've been using it for pass 3 years with excellent results. What dose when on juice? Any help and suggestions greatly appreciated guys. Want to learn and understand as much as I can before I start

[Ernst]

age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?
pct knowledge?

I would just shoot the same amount eod, think if it as an average over 2 weeks, rather than thinking about it on just a weekly basis. That's like 0.6ml eod (assuming it's at 250mg/ml). Ideally the dbol would be split up throughout the day since it has a pretty short half life. Always make sure you have your proper pct and everything you might need in hand (estrogen sides?) before you begin. Did you have a particular pct plan in place? When would you begin? As far as acne goes, it's unique to the individual. Keeping levels stable should help with that and you might leave out the dbol too, so if your acne flares (or any other sides arise) you know what's causing it.

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[drgnball]

Im 26, 5'7 and weight 76kg. Body fat not sure but average I guess? Try to get a little more leaner before i start. High calories and me dont mix well as I hate cardio. I trained for three years naturally and gain excellent mass and strength. Due to personal problems stopped and loss most of it. Really depressing to go through as building natural mass is all that harder. Started training again pass 1 year and made excellent gains. Second time around is much easier and quicker to put on. I know exactly what excersies and form works best for me. Aiming for 2 grams protein per 1kg split between six meals a day. Still learing alot about PCT as well but do know to use nolvadex and clomid. Will make sure I have all on hand even before i pin myself.
EOD equals to 7 injections in two weeks. So about 143mg EOD averages to 1000mg per two week?

[LeroyB]

Im 26, 5'7 and weight 76kg. Body fat not sure but average I guess? Try to get a little more leaner before i start. High calories and me dont mix well as I hate cardio. I trained for three years naturally and gain excellent mass and strength. Due to personal problems stopped and loss most of it. Really depressing to go through as building natural mass is all that harder. Started training again pass 1 year and made excellent gains. Second time around is much easier and quicker to put on. I know exactly what excersies and form works best for me. Aiming for 2 grams protein per 1kg split between six meals a day. Still learing alot about PCT as well but do know to use nolvadex and clomid. Will make sure I have all on hand even before i pin myself.
EOD equals to 7 injections in two weeks. So about 143mg EOD averages to 1000mg per two week?

Might want to resolve the obvious conflict between the two bold items as they go hand in hand for gaining.

[drgnball]

Dont get me wrong i have plenty of calories for growth and repair. Its just doing the extra cardio to burn off the excess fat that i dont like doing. But id rather over eat and do extra cadio then under eat. It's something im going to have to learn to enjoy. Mite invest in a ipod i guess

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[Aussiebb]

i decided sus/dbol for my first cycle @ 500mg wk1-12/ 40mg wk1-4. Proper PCT after of course. Im from Australia and as you know it's very hard to source juice. Im very lucky to even get hold of these so limited to just them. I searched and plan to inject EOD to best keep levels stable as I am very concerned about acne. So if I start my first shot on monday, that means x4 shots @125mg that week then the following week is x3 shots @ 166mg?
When is it best to inject? AM,PM, pre/post? Also how do i best take dbol? How many mgs at a time and at what time of day?
Has anyone had good results from using vb5 powder for their acne? I've been using it for pass 3 years with excellent results. What dose when on juice? Any help and suggestions greatly appreciated guys. Want to learn and understand as much as I can before I start

If your worried about acne, then stay away from dbol.It will make your acne worse.

And is your sus 250mg/ml? Just shoot twice a week, so 1ml for example monday, 1ml thur.

And doesnt matter what time you inject.

And for acne, try to get roaccutane of a darmatologist.Best shit for acne

[DannyD09]

i wouldnt reccomend a sus dbol cycle tbh but obviously it is up to you and depends on your own body, but i experience some quite nasty side effects, including quite bad acne and bad pains in my kidney even on milk thistle. although it is a very good mass builder, i stacked on around 30lbs-40lbs on a 10 week cycle

[redz]

i wouldnt reccomend a sus dbol cycle tbh but obviously it is up to you and depends on your own body, but i experience some quite nasty side effects, including quite bad acne and bad pains in my kidney even on milk thistle. although it is a very good mass builder, i stacked on around 30lbs-40lbs on a 10 week cycle

You must have had a crap diet and gained tons of fat and water retention which was likely a big part of the kidney pains. I hate to tell you but I have used much harsher cycles and never had kidney pains that is a red flag you should not be cycling.

[DannyD09]

i had a good diet and kept my cardio up quite well. not much fat gained tbh but there was quite a bit of water retention. and as for the kidney pains i went quite harsh on the dbol as i felt it werent doing much for me then the pains started. luckily enough i stopped before i done any real damage and just continues with the sus for the other 6 weeks

[thehalfbreed]

i've run 2 cycles of sus500mg/wk and dbol 30mgs/day and the only side effects i had was slightly high bp from the dbol, and slight acne, jsut depends on your body. but if you try accutane becareful, as if most dr.'s suspect you're on juice they'll deny you the prescription and they'll create probs for you (some have for friends of mine). and with accutane, i believe, there have been many c/o stained teeth. usually if you shower at least 2times a day(especially right after workout since you are getting overly diaphoretic and laying on equipment that may contain other peoples bacteria) and scrub real good and take a vitb5/panthothenic acid supplement (usually get this at a local pharmacy). Take about 2gr B5 for the first 3 days. Take about 10gr B5 for the 3 months or until acne is clear.
Slowly drop the dose to the lowest dose which is still effective in your body. This differs from person to person. Drop for example 1gr per week. and to help with keeping bp low while on dbol, lower your sodium intake, increase your water intake and cardio, and take a vasodilator if available(viagra/cialis are great, if not available you can find different types on discountanabolics.com). if you need more help bro you can pm me, i know how it is trying to read through all these damn postings to find the answer you need, ill try to help if i can haha.

[drgnball]

Could I drop the dbol and instead use test prop for the first 4 weeks to kickstart the cycle? Say 100mg EOD? My supplier thus so far can only offer pregnyl for PCT. From what i've read you have to mix the powder into some type of water solution before injecting? Dam sounds like alot for a newbie. And say for argument sake the sus came in 1ml amps then i would have to use all 1ml in every pin? So i would be limited to two shots per week instead on my desired EOD for 500mg a wk

[stevey_6t9]

Could I drop the dbol and instead use test prop for the first 4 weeks to kickstart the cycle? Say 100mg EOD? My supplier thus so far can only offer pregnyl for PCT. From what i've read you have to mix the powder into some type of water solution before injecting? Dam sounds like alot for a newbie. And say for argument sake the sus came in 1ml amps then i would have to use all 1ml in every pin? So i would be limited to two shots per week instead on my desired EOD for 500mg a wk

I woud skip the dbol and use prop to kickstart. the pins hurt though. yeh HCG is good to use, i wouldnt use it PCt though i wud run it last 3-4 weeks of your cycle. and yes you got to mix it with bacteriostatic water to dilute it. If ur sus250 is in amps looks like u cud do 1amp e3d.