If you think your underdosed

[PistolStarta]

Do people with experience in this usually finish the cycle then run PCT or just PCT out. I'm not calling it quits yet, and I know some people dont get anything til weeks 7-9 depending on metabolism. Im just trying to plan

At 5 1/2 wks Enth, Even frontloaded since I had a bit extra (1000)
Been running 250 inj Sun/Wed
Minor increase in sex drive
About 4 lb increase in weight
Decent strenght gains however?

Diet is roughly 240pro/300carb/60-80fat(depending on my Peanut butter intake)

5 day training split
Mon Chest (flat press, Incline Dumbell, Cable flyes, Decline Barbell) abs
Tuesday back (wide grip pulls, Rows, Front pulldowns, One arm rows)
Wed Legs (Smith Stepbacks, Dumbbell squats, Deads, Leg extension, calves)
Thurs shoulders (Overhead press, Front raises, side raises, upright rows, shrugs)
friday Arms (Incline bicep curl, Barbell curl, Preacher curl, Close grip bench, Ropepressdowns, Skullcrushers or one arm pressdowns)

Only thing I'm really seeing is some strength and tiny bit of weight and some vascularity which is less than weeks 2-4. Which could all be diet I think. Could my Adex cause all this?

[Ernst]

Are you running any AI's or anything else?

You're taking in under 3000 cals a day. Is that enough given your stats and goals?

[PistolStarta]

Yes I'm only 5'6 and 155, I'm running adex at only .25mg eod because bloat will look real bad on my frame. I was running ed, but cut that back 2 weeks ago because I thought it was the problem.

[PistolStarta]

bump

[sportfan33]

hhhhmmmmm...are u trying to gain weight, because with a diet like that your not going to. EAT BOY

[PistolStarta]

Here's my diet as of current

Breakfast 8am
6 Egg white omelet w/ low fat cheese
3/4 cup of rolled oats
1 Banana

Workout at 9:45- 11:15ish
Bcaas Intra-workout
Immediately post workout whey protein (24g)

PWN Shake 1/2 cup oats, 1 cup strawberries, 1 cup milk, 1 scoop protein, 1 tbsp PB

12:00-12:15
1 cup brown rice
1 can tuna
1 hard boiled egg

3:00pm
1 hard boiled egg
Roasted Peanuts
apple
OR
protein bar

5:30-6:00
12 grain bread w/ 3-4slices ham and mustard (not deli meat, thick slices off roast)
2 servings green veggie
OR
2 chicken breasts
2 servings veggie

8:30
1/2-1 cup cottage cheese
carrots

9:30
Casein shake (24g protein)

Bed 10-10:30


You dont think thats enough to get me past 155 to 170 on cycle?

[PistolStarta]

this is rough, I also eat rice cakes w/ PB after workout and other things, thats staple foods tho

[oscarjones]

I'd increase your protein intake to 300g and fat to 100g, keep carbs the same.

Skip the fat in your PWO shake. Do Whey, Oats, Water, maybe some fruit.

Also, may add in some Vit-C PWO, couple grams to help lower cortisol.

Add in red meat, like lean ground beef. Walmart sells 93/7 and 97/3 cuts, that's what I buy. Eat them for your last two meals, like - 8oz burgers with a salad and some sweet potatoe or something.

Also add in EFA's more fish oil and olive oils.

[PistolStarta]

alright thanks, I actually have a lb of 93/7 just havent cooked it yet, so its just a lack of protein/fat? Also PWO shake is w/ skim milk.

[darkcrayz]

Here's my diet as of current

Breakfast 8am
3 Egg white, 3 whole egg omelet w/ low fat cheese
3/4 cup of rolled oats
1 Banana

Workout at 9:45- 11:15ish
Bcaas Intra-workout
Immediately post workout whey protein (50g)

PWN Shake 1/2 cup oats, 1 cup strawberries, 1 cup milk, 2 scoop protein, 2 tbsp PB

12:00-12:15
1 cup brown rice
8oz beef, or 2 can tuna w/ 2 tbl spn olive oil
1 hard boiled egg

3:00pm
3 hard boiled egg
1 scoop whey
2 tbl spn fish oil
Roasted Peanuts
apple


5:30-6:00
12 grain bread w/ 3-4slices ham and mustard (not deli meat, thick slices off roast)
2 servings green veggie
OR
2 chicken breasts (8 oz minimum)
2 servings veggie w/ 1 tbl spn olive oil dressing

8:30
1 cup cottage cheese, 1 scp whey, 2 oz almonds
carrots

9:30
Casein shake w/ 1 tbl spn fish oil (50g protein)

Bed 10-10:30


You dont think thats enough to get me past 155 to 170 on cycle?

that is how i would modify it.

[PistolStarta]

alright thanks, I'll pick up some fishoil today.

[FireGuy]

Your original numbers have you at nearly 2800 calories. For a guy weighing 155 that should be more than enough. Plus 4lbs in 5 weeks for a guy your size is about what should be expected.

[chuckt12345]

^plenty enough calories for your size.
Id keep at it a few weeks and see. Maybe your just expecting to much. Is this your first cycle?

[meathead320]

I would not even go by weight either.

Even at 155 pounds, you likely still have some bodyfat (hopefully low however), and 500mg EW test, at week 5.5 should just start kicking in.

I would go by the Mirror. Not the scale anyway.

If you lost 2 pounds of fat, and are a gross of 4 pounds heavier, that means you gained 6 net pounds of muscle. That is how the scale and trick you.

[PistolStarta]

alright thanks alot guys, put me at ease. I've done two prohormone cycles and would gain 12-15lbs in 4 weeks (obviously mostly water). But yes it is my first AAS, so I really dont know what to expect (Also I have leaned out).

[chuckt12345]

yea mirror is best bet.
alot of times people will gain 10lbs in first few weeks and then stop gaining,, but they dont realize they prb put on 10lbs of fluids and now there droppin water weight and gainin muscle mass and stayin same weight.