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    Dr says that bridging cycles with Anavar shuts down hpta

    i went to the doctor today and asked him about bridging cycles with Anavar and he says that it will shut down my hpta.

    He says regardless of the dosage of Anavar it will have a very severe impact on the HPTA.

    He does not recommend it and I have read on this site that it will not have a noticeable effect on the HPTA at a dosage of 20mg/day

    Also the doctor specializes in Hormone Therapy and is a steroid user himself. He is a monster and so are 50% of his patients. He has a regular practice.

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    yeah, he's right
    were you suprized?

    OBJECTIVE: We studied the effects of oxandrolone on serum concentrations of LH, FSH, testosterone, GH, SHBG, DHEAS, IGF-I and insulin in boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty.
    DESIGN: Ten boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty, mean age 13.8 years (range 12.4-15.5) were studied. Twenty-four-hour serum concentration profiles of GH, LH and FSH were constructed by drawing blood samples at 20-minute intervals. Three study occasions over a period of 6 months were chosen to assess hormone concentrations before, during and 6 weeks after a 3-month course of oxandrolone (2.5 mg once daily) therapy.
    RESULTS: Growth velocity increased during oxandrolone treatment and stayed higher after therapy (pre 3.9 +/- 0.5; on 6.3 +/- 0.8; post 6.4 +/- 0.9 cm/year (mean +/- SEM) two way ANOVA, F = 5.3, P = 0.02). Oxandrolone had androgenic effects, suppressing mean serum LH concentrations from 1.7 +/- 0.3 to 1.1 +/- 0.2 U/I and serum testosterone concentrations from 1.9 +/- 0.6 to 0.8 +/- 0.1 nmol/l. SHBG concentrations were also reduced from 130.9 +/- 14.6 to 30.7 +/- 7.3 nmol/l. Serum GH concentration fell slightly from 5.9 +/- 0.6 to 4.8 +/- 0.5 mU/l. After cessation of treatment, there was a significant 'rebound' in mean 24-hour serum LH (2.6 U/l +/- 0.4) and testosterone concentrations (3.2 +/- 0.9 nmol/l) but no change in serum GH concentrations. SHBG values also rose but not to the same extent as those observed before therapy (82.0 +/- 8.4 nmol/l). There were no statistically significant differences in serum concentrations of FSH, DHEAS, IGF-I and insulin over the study period. In a stepwise multiple regression analysis of factors that might influence the growth rate observed, the 24-hour mean serum testosterone concentration and the treatment (on or off) with oxandrolone were the main influences. The relationship was described by the equation Height velocity = 0.69 (24-hour mean serum testosterone concentration)+1.70 (treatment regimen)+3.37 (adjusted R2 = 0.35, F = 8.39, P = 0.001).
    CONCLUSIONS: Oxandrolone has an androgenic action as shown by changes in serum LH, testosterone and SHBG concentrations and by the lack of effect on FSH. No effect of oxandrolone on the GH axis was documented. We suggest that the growth promoting effects of oxandrolone are related in part to the mild androgenic effects of the steroid and the growth acceleration following oxandrolone withdrawal may reflect increasing total serum testosterone concentrations and decreasing levels of SHBG and progress in puberty.

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    ^ Good work and yes it has an effect I back that up as well.

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    yea i dont know why people bridge,,, if you dont care about yoru health then just stay on.

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    Bridging/cruising is dumb. Guys say " I dont want to lose my gains" , hey dumbass thats just water your dropping once your estrogen drops back to normal. If you dieted, trained and recovered properly you wont lose your gains. yesy you will lose some water weight and strength, but like Chuck said is it worth your heath?

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    Anavar does not shut u Down.... It suppresses you but not shut u down.... I don't see the purpose of bridging either ....

    Kratos that study is done with kids hormonal problems

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    Unless you make a living off of your body cruising or bridging is silly.

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    Yea glad i did not do that! I had no idea that it can shut you down. From what i read on this site It sounded more like the effect will be slight and unnoticeable where shutting down your hpta is horrible unless the gains are going to be unbelievable. Like a test cycle.

    Thanks for everyone input and thanks for the doc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LizzardSecond View Post
    i went to the doctor today and asked him about bridging cycles with Anavar and he says that it will shut down my hpta.

    He says regardless of the dosage of Anavar it will have a very severe impact on the HPTA.

    He does not recommend it and I have read on this site that it will not have a noticeable effect on the HPTA at a dosage of 20mg/day

    Also the doctor specializes in Hormone Therapy and is a steroid user himself. He is a monster and so are 50% of his patients. He has a regular practice.
    I bridge with anavar at 5mgs ed until my next cycle. But yes, it can shut down your htpa if your not careful. I get my blood work done, run my pcts, I'm on hcg 90% of the time, and I'm fine. There is nothing wrong with bridging if you have a point to it. And for all the jackasses who think they know what they're talking about, most people do loose their gains when they don't cycle.

    Point is, don't bridge unless you have a reason for it. I compete, therefore I bridge. If you're just looking to get a 6 pack on the beach don't do it.
    Last edited by PO OFFICER; 11-25-2009 at 07:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PO OFFICER View Post
    I bridge with anavar at 5mgs ed until my next cycle. But yes, it can shut down your htpa if your not careful. I get my blood work done, run my pcts, I'm on hcg 90% of the time, and I'm fine. There is nothing wrong with bridging if you have a point to it. And for all the jackasses who think they know what they're talking about, most people do loose their gains when they don't cycle.

    Point is, don't bridge unless you have a reason for it. I compete, therefore I bridge. If you're just looking to get a 6 pack on the beach don't do it.
    no harm mate but most of em are more knowledgable than you

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