Is tren worth it?

[snowfox]

I'm thinking of maybe including some tren in my next cycle at possibly 75mg. ED or EOD together with my test enth.

But the prolactin and progesterone from the tren is what worries me. I'll have the acetate version so I can stop whenever side effects get too bad. Since I have no experience with tren...should I even worry about the sides with such a moderate dose? I can't have milk coming out of my nipples, I just can't have that.

If I notice I have problems with prolactin/progesterone I could just stop the tren and since it's tren ace it should be out of my body within a couple of days and so do the side effects, right?. It does work that way doesn't it?

[Big]

tren is by far my favorite compound when used as part of a proper cycle by someone who is ready for it. with the short ester, you are correct that if you have overwhelming negative sides you can discontinue use and the sides will subside relatively quickly.

[snowfox]

With such doses. Do I have to worry about resorting to cabergoline or bromo if the results are great and want to continue?

[Hazard]

I would have it on hand...... ALWAYS have everything you need and MIGHT need before you cycle.....

~Haz~

[snowfox]

I have losts of proviron , tamoxifen and HCG as I'm doing a test enth cycle. But I doubt any of these ancilliaries would do anything against progesterone or prolactin, would it?

[Hazard]

Nope..... gunna need caber/bromo. There's even conflicting information about Tamox making things worse with a 19-nor compound..... also..... I believe the effects of A-dex are lessened while using caber. Aromasin is a better choice while running caber/bromo.....

~Haz~

[snowfox]

I'm going to use the nolva for pct. I've heard that caber and bromo have some serious sides?

[snowfox]

Could I do permanent damage to my HPTA axis when prolactin and progesterone levels are high for long periods?

[Ashop]

I'm thinking of maybe including some tren in my next cycle at possibly 75mg. ED or EOD together with my test enth.

But the prolactin and progesterone from the tren is what worries me. I'll have the acetate version so I can stop whenever side effects get too bad. Since I have no experience with tren...should I even worry about the sides with such a moderate dose? I can't have milk coming out of my nipples, I just can't have that.

If I notice I have problems with prolactin/progesterone I could just stop the tren and since it's tren ace it should be out of my body within a couple of days and so do the side effects, right?. It does work that way doesn't it?

I would stick with you plans and use TREN ACE your 1st time to see how you respond. Stick with lower dosages and maybe even daily injects (to keep levels steady) and go from there. Try 37.5mg ED or 50mg ED.

[RANA]

Nope..... gunna need caber/bromo. There's even conflicting information about Tamox making things worse with a 19-nor compound..... also..... I believe the effects of A-dex are lessened while using caber. Aromasin is a better choice while running caber/bromo.....

~Haz~

Listen to Haz, he is right. You must have caber/bromo on hand.

[snowfox]

Which one is the better and safest of the two? Caber or bromo?

[Critical Mass]

Which one is the better and safest of the two? Caber or bromo?

Prami is better than both of the above.

[KimboHalfSlice]

When I read the thread title I was expecting you to talk about the psychological effects of Trenbolone .

Trenbolone sounds fantastic in terms of muscle volume gains and strength gains, but really I'm put off by the psychological effects. For now I'm sticking to safer stuff like Test & Deca .

[yourmom]

When I read the thread title I was expecting you to talk about the psychological effects of Trenbolone .

Trenbolone sounds fantastic in terms of muscle volume gains and strength gains, but really I'm put off by the psychological effects. For now I'm sticking to safer stuff like Test & Deca.

Trenbolone worked well for me, but it seemed to make me a bit crazy. I wont use it again, it's not for me.

[snowfox]

Well I've read as many threads on Tren as possible. I do read that a lot of people have issues with aggression, nightmares, and sweating like a pig even in winter. But it's too tempting to not give it a go despite what I can excpect. But there are a lot of worst case scenario's I would possibly encounter, but not ALL bad side effects.

And if I can't handle certain side effects, I will just stop with it.

[1bigun11]

Well I've read as many threads on Tren as possible. I do read that a lot of people have issues with aggression, nightmares, and sweating like a pig even in winter. But it's too tempting to not give it a go despite what I can excpect. But there are a lot of worst case scenario's I would possibly encounter, but not ALL bad side effects.

And if I can't handle certain side effects, I will just stop with it.

That's all you can do bro. everybody is different with the sides. Sounds like you know what to watch for. Good luck and enjoy.

[peachfuzz]

Which one is the better and safest of the two? Caber or bromo?

caber

Prami is better than both of the above.

i agree

[peachfuzz]

how about some stats?

cycle experience included???

[snowfox]

stats: 1.93 meters (sorry, we use the metric scale here), 102 kilograms, 15% BF. I've done lots of cycles test enth only and test/ drostanolone enanthate cycles. But I've been in a mototcycle accident and have been training full on again the last 3 months. I had to take it very easy in the beginning because of fisiotherapy.

But the months that I couldn't train were horrible. Lost a fair amount of muscle (waisting) and want to put that back on a.s.a.p. Probably a stupid excuse for me to go on tren . But then again, I won't know if I don't try.

[benNV]

For me the sides of Tren have been pretty intense! But saying that no other coumpund has had such a dramatic effect on my body composition the way Tren has

[snowfox]

Well I'll see what side effects tren will have on me personally. But like you said " no other coumpund has had such a dramatic effect on my body composition". But are ancilliaries like caber and/or bromo harsh? And do they have dramatic sides?

[kloan]

I'm on 200mg 2x week Tren Hex. I think the benefit of using Hex/Enth vs Ace is that it comes on so gradually, it gives one the chance to adjust to the physical and psychological changes one experiences. This is my first time running it, and despite all of the warnings to use Ace for a first time user, I decided to gamble with the longest ester.

I haven't experienced much in terms of night sweats. I have been experiencing some pretty strong hot flashes, especially when I eat. But I experienced those with my Test only cycle as well. Sleep hasn't been affected that much.. maybe a little bit harder to fall asleep, but I've always had sleep difficulties (I wake up frequently throughout the night).

The most notable psychological shift I've noticed is a sensation in my head that feels as though there's unrest or tension. I can feel it in the frontal region of my head... a dormant aggression of sorts that's ready to surge with explosive rage at the drop of a hat. For someone who's not able to be conscious of their emotional state and thoughts, they should steer clear of Tren.

However, if you're able to control your emotions, be aware of when things are triggering your anger, etc and breath through it, calm yourself down, etc... then it's a great compound to use. I'm enjoying it so far, 6.5 weeks in. The only thing I'm finding a bit tiresome is the sensation in my head. But this is a powerful hormone I'm using, and it's the kind of thing to be expected.

I've been taking Caber since the beginning. I haven't read anything that suggests using it throughout a cycle will interfere with gains, so I certainly hope that's not the case!

I've been running it at 0.5mg 2x week. Haven't noticed any sides from the Caber.

[management26]

Had some of my best results with Tren but at the same time, the psychological effects were almost unbearable. It pretty much turned me into a raging lunatic and I'm normally an even tempered dude. I was running it at 75mg a day.

[elfin1mf]

So prami is that good? What dosages would you guys recommend and when to start?
I read prami can increase gains further by upping gh levels 400% of base levels in adult males.
Here is my issue though, how do we really know that the prima will help with the prolactin?
Is this really going to be an issue with doses as small as 500mgs a week for 6-8wks?
The main issue with prolactin is obviously lactation right? Would this go away naturally if it happened like a few weeks after cycle or something? Would I be stuck with this problem if I did not take prami as a preventative.. even with low doses? I am all on board with the prami, sounds like a win-win.. I just do not want to complicate things is I can avoid it though. More drugs = more chance of adverse sides from the cocktail.

[thebigfella]

i hate readin these threads, they make me wana take tren but i can only get fukin tri-tren and been advised not to take it

[redz]

Tren is amazing and the only notable side I have ever experienced was night sweats. I just keep 2 spare t-shirts out ready to do the quick change and then I drop back to deep sleep. Other than that I did get tren cough one time which wasnt too pleasant.

[Billytk03z]

Tren is definately worth it if you want to look like a rock hard GOD!!!!! that is.... if you can stand having no stamina, intense sweating/night sweats, insomnia, horrible coughing spats, possible major hairloss, etc.....

[WastedTalent]

I've be[U]en running tren ace @ 75mg/d with test prop @ 100mg/d and winny @ 60mg/d for the past 4 weeks and I just started noticing sides in the last 4-5 days i.e terrible night sweats and increased aggression but I never really noticed any loss of stamina. Actually if anything I had more stamina from all the hostility I take out in the gym

[*El Diablo*]

I fooking love Tren .... Started Friday last week and loving it. Every second of it.

[kloan]

what's prami?

[jackman22]

Trenbolone worked well for me, but it seemed to make me a bit crazy. I wont use it again, it's not for me.

i hear that bro but for me the pros outweigh the cons.