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    BIG MIF is offline New Member
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    Smile Trying to bulk up without water

    Hi i'm a newbie so dont break my nuts too much. I have done a bit of research and have decided to follow the following cycle. This is my first major cycle but did try 8 weeks of winny years ago.

    week 1-4 30 mg dbol ed
    week 1-12 100 mg test propionate eod
    week 1-12 50 mg proviron
    week 1-15 20 mg nolvadex
    week 12-15 clomid 100/50/50

    My stats:
    height: 6 ft wt: 16 stone 7 lbs b/f: 15%

    goal: Bulk up to around 18 stone then strip next cycle to 16 stone with b/f of around 10-12% mark

    diet: clean 4000 calories without shakes etc.

    Any suggestions would be grateful, many thanks

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    age?

    at 15% bf most people will tell you to cut now before you bulk.

    For your first cycle, you could drop the proviron , and think about a long estered test.

    Trust me, you will get really sick of pinning yourself EOD for 12 weeks.

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    BIG MIF is offline New Member
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    36 years of age, b/f machine reckons i'm 10.2% but i still think its a bit higher thats why i entered 15%, so maybe 12.5% if i take the average.

    you suggest I could drop the proviron . Would it make a difference?
    Also is the pct ok?
    Plus i was gonna aim for 5000 clean cals a day with multi-vitamin, iron tabs, zinc tabs and a shedfull of cod liver oil
    thanks

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