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    BIG MIF is offline New Member
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    Thumbs up Comment on this cycle please

    Hi i'm a newbie so dont break my nuts too much. I have done a bit of research and have decided to follow the following cycle. This is my first major cycle but did try 8 weeks of winny years ago.

    week 1-4 30 mg dbol ed
    week 1-12 100 mg test propionate eod
    week 1-12 50 mg proviron
    week 1-15 20 mg nolvadex
    week 12-15 clomid 100/50/50

    My stats:
    height: 6 ft wt: 16 stone 7 lbs b/f: 15%

    goal: Bulk up to around 18 stone then strip next cycle to 16 stone with b/f of around 10-12% mark

    diet: clean 4000 calories without shakes etc.

    Any suggestions would be grateful, many thanks

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    For a first real cycle it is recommended you do a Test E or C cycle. That being said you could do the DBol for 4 weeks and stay on the test E or C for 12 weeks at 500mg/week shot twice. Not sure about Proviron so I can't help any there. Why are you taking Nolva throughout the entire cycle?

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    That cycle is OK for you providing you can handle the EOD shots which most newbies would try and avoid. I would question the use of dbol given you are using prop. Dbol is usually used in a Test E or Test C cycle to kick start the cycle until the long esters kick in. This isnt the case with prop as it kick in within a few days but its your call. Also be aware that Prop hurts like a bitch.

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    Save the Nolva for pct. And you can easily cut down the cycle to 8 weeks.

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    I was lead to believe that the nolva would stop bitch tits, more of a better to be safe than sorry scenario. That said, i've also been told that i could drop the proviron ? would it make a difference or are the amounts of steroid i'm going to take too low?

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    if ur worried about gyno, get some adex and run it with ur cycle.

    save the nolva for PCT.

    i agree with kale, i would drop the dbol as the prop will kick in quick,
    and pray that u get some good prop, otherwise it will fvking cripple u..

    if ur going to run prop, which i luv, start looking at injection sites as u will have to rotate them often.

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    what about the proviron ...keep it or drop it??

    thanks for the replies

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    Do either proviron ,ari or nolva on cycle. You dont need all 3. That beeing said,I would do proviron on cycle and nolva for pct and have ari on hand in case of gyno. Yes nolva will also help for gyno and so will proviron to a certain degree,its a bit weak.

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