First cycle for MMA fighter only 4-5 weeks

[Gameness]

Hey everyone

I've been lurking on this forum for a long time and read everything there is about different steroids, pct, nutrition, etc etc. But I still cant figure out what to do with this first cycle of mine, I feel confused.

Background:

23 year old, training MMA since 2000 on and off, seriously for the last 2 years.

6 feet 185 pounds. Weakest part is upper body, strong legs and core.

I am going to brazil in the beginning of january for training and travel, I want to put on some muscle and lose a little body fat. I have a good diet and follow it regularly. My goal is to not lose much endurance during this first cycle, keep as much gains as I can, and not have steroids show in any tests 6 months to 1 year from now.

I only have 4-5 weeks and I understand this is a short time, is it anything I can do steroid wise and will I have time for PCT? I am pretty much only doing this for the beach, I dont want to change anything fighting wise.

Thanks alot, any help is appreciated

[BJJ]

Look, do not cycle at your age!
You can achieve your targets naturally.
Believe me.

[Ashop]

Look, do not cycle at your age!
You can achieve your targets naturally.
Believe me.

I would definitely check your natural hormone levels before you go any further.

[Gameness]

Look, do not cycle at your age!
You can achieve your targets naturally.
Believe me.

Are you sure? I usually do very hard circuit training and MMA before fights, but neglect traditional strength training. My plan so far is to start lifting immediatly, keep up the cardio and MMA as usual, and eat clean.

You think I can make it? I am going to Brazil in exactly 5 weeks today. Any tips is greatly appreciated!

[Gameness]

I would definitely check your natural hormone levels before you go any further.

How do I do this? At a lab?
I think my hormones are fine by the look of things?

[BJJ]

Are you sure? I usually do very hard circuit training and MMA before fights, but neglect traditional strength training. My plan so far is to start lifting immediatly, keep up the cardio and MMA as usual, and eat clean.

You think I can make it? I am going to Brazil in exactly 5 weeks today. Any tips is greatly appreciated!

Good things come to those who know to wait.

You are rushing and in 5 weeks naturally, even though very young, you will not achieve much. I was speaking in a long term period.
By the way, what is you body fat percentage?

However, if you stop training mma, do cardio only twice a week for no more than 30/40' and start to lift weights only, by the time you have to go to Brazil you might have obtained a little strength increase and weight.
Of course, you need to modify your diet and increase the protein intake up to 1.5 gr per pound of body weight.

If I were you, I would act in this way keeping myself natural and clean.
First reach your genetic limit, then consider aas in case.

[BJJ]

How do I do this? At a lab?
I think my hormones are fine by the look of things?

Sure a lab.
Go here: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=403234
Check post number 2, in the hormonal section you can find a list of values you need to know prior taking any aas.

I do not believe you need to check your levels, unless you have got some sort of sides associated with a decrease or an increase of certain values.

[Gameness]

Good things come to those who know to wait.

You are rushing and in 5 weeks naturally, even though very young, you will not achieve much. I was speaking in a long term period.
By the way, what is you body fat percentage?

However, if you stop training mma, do cardio only twice a week for no more than 30/40' and start to lift weights only, by the time you have to go to Brazil you might have obtained a little strength increase and weight.
Of course, you need to modify your diet and increase the protein intake up to 1.5 gr per pound of body weight.

If I were you, I would act in this way keeping myself natural and clean.
First reach your genetic limit, then consider aas in case.

I understand that it takes a long time to get into ideal form. I was more thinking along the lines of how much BF you think I can decrease and if I can get any increase in muscle at all until I travel?
Stopping MMA is not an option, I am going to fight in brazil and I have to keep my skills sharp. Maybe I should cut down a little on the running instead?

I should definately get my BF checked at the gym asap.

[BJJ]

I understand that it takes a long time to get into ideal form. I was more thinking along the lines of how much BF you think I can decrease and if I can get any increase in muscle at all until I travel? one of them, either you cut or you get a little bigger. you do not have enough time to accomplish both. if you are around 12/13% bf I would try the second option.
Stopping MMA is not an option, I am going to fight in brazil and I have to keep my skills sharp. Maybe I should cut down a little on the running instead? if you want to use the second option, you have to cut down more than just a little.

I should definately get my BF checked at the gym asap. use a calliper.

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[Gameness]

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Thanks alot I appreciate it! One last question though;
Basically I have to lose endurance to gain strength right? Maybe it would be good for me
to try to bulk up a little and gain a little more muscles for 1 month. Then I can do MMA and run
for 1 month in brazil, then the 2nd month in brazil I will be in good shape yes?

[BJJ]

Thanks alot I appreciate it! One last question though;
Basically I have to lose endurance to gain strength right? Maybe it would be good for me
to try to bulk up a little and gain a little more muscles for 1 month. Then I can do MMA and run
for 1 month in brazil, then the 2nd month in brazil I will be in good shape yes?

No, you might be able to keep your current level of endurance by eating and resting properly.

[bjpennnn]

6 feet 185 at 23...at 19 i hit 185 at 5-6 you can easily gain at leassssst 10-15 more pounds ezzzz.

[BJJ]

6 feet 185 at 23...at 19 i hit 185 at 5-6 you can easily gain at leassssst 10-15 more pounds ezzzz.

Sure, but the problem he has only 4-5 weeks of time.

[bjpennnn]

bottom line dont do it why do you want to be bigger for brazil? Your going to be training there hard i am assuming you are going to rip through that new muscle without proper pct and without lifting and diett. just wait till you get back if you are going to and you should still wait just my 2 cents.

[Gameness]

bottom line dont do it why do you want to be bigger for brazil? Your going to be training there hard i am assuming you are going to rip through that new muscle without proper pct and without lifting and diett. just wait till you get back if you are going to and you should still wait just my 2 cents.

Actually I just wanted to look a little better for the beach and carneval. I have access to AAS, PCT etc in Brazil as well. I will be lifting and training MMA there.
But you guys think I should wait til I hit my genetic maximum naturally?
Is there anything I can do besides lifting and training too speed up the process?

[bjpennnn]

ha if you want to look more ripped try taraxatone, i use it when i use to go to vegas al the time, use it for liek 2 or 3 days prior it sucks out all your water you look so ripped ha. Lay of the juice if its for carnival. start for the rite reasons not to look good on the beach.

[Gameness]

ha if you want to look more ripped try taraxatone, i use it when i use to go to vegas al the time, use it for liek 2 or 3 days prior it sucks out all your water you look so ripped ha. Lay of the juice if its for carnival. start for the rite reasons not to look good on the beach.

Does it really work? I'd try it if thats the case. Is it really a good idea though to get dehydrated before landing in a tropical climate? Sounds like I should wait with proper AAS until I reach my max, which is a long way ahead.

[Unoid]

Well I'm opposite you. I'm a strength trainer with background black belt in TKD looking to start BJJ/MMA.

The only different I would make to my regular strength routine is work for faster twitch muscle and explosive training when lifting; to simulate what you do in wrestling.

I don't think you really need to cycle if you haven't even started weight lifting properly yet.

[NEMESIS RR]

I also train. Just cut down on your MMA training. Dont beat yourself up. Keep it to 3 one hour sessions a week. Start some lifting and increase calories. If you dont have to make weight your game will improve.

[corsa5000]

i thought steroids were illegal in mma?

[Gameness]

i thought steroids were illegal in mma?

They are. But I am not turning pro until next year. And altough it is illegal, many people do it, including UFC fighters.

[Gameness]

Well I'm opposite you. I'm a strength trainer with background black belt in TKD looking to start BJJ/MMA.

The only different I would make to my regular strength routine is work for faster twitch muscle and explosive training when lifting; to simulate what you do in wrestling.

I don't think you really need to cycle if you haven't even started weight lifting properly yet.

This sounds like a plan, explosive training might be what will change my body the most regarding my short time span. Maybe flip some tires, do some crossfit and hit the kettlebells. Lift some explosively, keep MMA moderate.
Sounds good?