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12-01-2009, 07:14 PM #1
2nd real cycle question
Ok im picking up new gear on friday. First off id liked to say i got an incridible deal on it, but i wont go into details but had to throw it out there I would also like to say im not starting it until Begining or middle of janurary.
Stats
29yo
5-10
180
13-14% bf
Training for 3 years. Dieting though for this past year only.
Knowledge is there with training. Dieting is getting better by the day. Im in diet forum everyday.
Cycle history
1. Test 400mg and Deca 300mg 10wks Shot every 3.5 days
2. Ph Epi-stane and X-trene by CEL. 4 wks
Both cycles had the pct protocol
New Cycle is as follows. Willing to change with good adivce
Wk 1-4 DBOL 50mg
Wk 1-12 or 14 TEST E 500mg/wk Split 2 pins (ill explain confusion on 12-14)
Wk 1-10 or 12 DECA 300mg/wk split 2 pins
Ok With the 12-14 wk thing. My vials are 10ml which means a 10 wk cycle. So im Definately getting two vials of the test so i can run it 2 weeks longer then the deca. But i wanna run deca for 12 wks, so is it ok to run test for 14?
And the deca, the vial is 300mg/ml exactly what i took my first cycle, wanted to bump to 400mg but have no clue how i would go about measureing this out. Plus the next thing if i get two vials of each, im obivously going to have more the half of the second ones left over. How long are they good for? Probablly wont do next cycle until earliest july.
PCT Starts 14 days after last test pin
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clen each day 20/30/40....and so on till i hit 80-100 depending on sides. Do this for 2 wks, then take 2 wks off.
I am asking the source if he can get a hcg for me. But he doesnt know what im talking about. So im trying to research and find the real name for it lol .
Plus never ran a hcg so still trying to find out right doeses and when to take the hcg.
Should i run an ai? If so any suggestion on best kind.
Not sure if i need to put anything else out there.
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12-01-2009, 07:16 PM #2Junior Member
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So if I read this you have 2 vials of 300mg of deca . So if you inject 300mg twice a week (600mg pw) that is 2 ml,which means you have 5 weeks worth not including you might lose a bit while drawing some in your syringe, being exact in about impossible. You might only get 9 1/2 weeks worth so you would need 3 vials. Same goes for test E
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12-02-2009, 04:07 PM #7
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2 vials of test e 250mg at 10ml will only last you in theory 10 weeks f.y.i.....so if you want to run it 12 or 14 weeks you will need another vial.....you also have to account for what is lost in the needles for drawing and injecting....i was lucky to get 12 weeks out of 30ml...dam those 18g drawing pins....good luck...
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12-02-2009, 04:23 PM #10
ok, maybe i mis-worded it.
But what i meant was its a 300mg/ml vial of deca and a 500mg/ml vial of test. I am taking 1/2 cc (150deca/250test) every 3.5 days. So its a 10ml vial, i lose some through pinning. But 20ml should be enough for 12-14 wks. Using 1 ml a week?
Plus it ok to run the deca to 12 wks? and the test to 14wks? ISnt too long?
thanks, sorry for the confusion
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12-02-2009, 04:29 PM #11
u can run the copmpounds that long, its fine..
but i have never seen test at 500mg/ml.
]what does the vial of test say, not the name/lab, but what is the breakdown man..
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12-02-2009, 06:30 PM #12
Well im picking it up in two days. He said i had the choice of 300 or 500mg. Straight from the pharmacy. I post what it says on friday, maybe saturday. Im also going to take pics and post in the correct forum. Forget the name of the forum but i wont post here.
Ok so ill run test for 14wks and deca 12wks.
Since i ran deca the first time at 300mg....should i try bumping to 400mg? Since im spliting the pins....will be very hard to get 200 and 200 dont you think? If not i would love to know how.
I saw baseline posted, 1.3ml would be 400mg, but would it be realistic to try and split 1.3?
Because i am combining both compounds into the same pin every time. Thats the way i was told to for my first cycle, from this forum too.
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12-03-2009, 08:09 AM #13
Ok one other question, would it be ok to bridge this cycle? Im in my pct right now Nolva/clomid.....Just stopped a e-stane and x-trene cycle. Would it be ok to finish the 4 weeks of pct and the go right into this dbol /test/deca cycle, or should i follow the proper protocol and wait another 4 after the pct is finished???
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12-03-2009, 09:33 PM #14
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